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ex_navynuke's avatar

The notion that many powerful people might be compromised by a Mossad or CIA blackmail operation is not that far fetched. Are you familiar with the work of Whitney Webb? It's a bit disingenuous to mis characterize that concern.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

Conspiracy kooks have repeatedly told him to check out Whitney Webb's books, even though it's highly unlikely any of them actually read her utterly tedious books. Conspiracy theorists don't read to begin with, especially not dense and convulated 1000+ page book series.

Instead of demanding someone read over a thousand pages of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon bullshit, how about you just formulate a coherent argument of your own, rather than this argument from authority, if you can even call the anti-semitic conspiracy theorist Whitney Webb an authority.

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Sturm und Drang's avatar

Oh never mind, you’re concerned about antisemitism, that explains your point of view

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Draper Drapes's avatar

At this point you don’t think we’re run by sex trafficking blackmailers? You’re being willfully ignorant. and a faggot.

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Sturm und Drang's avatar

The reason is that her work has actual sources and documentation and is considered a reliable publication on the topic. You’re not doing yourself any favors by admitting your own bias in your commentary.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

It might be considered a reliable publication by conspiracy kooks that by and large never read the book. As Tracey has said, it's pretty much unreadable.

So, again, how about you just formulate a coherent argument of your own instead of telling others to torture themselves with 1,000 pages of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon trash that even the kooks barely read.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Yeah, I don't understand why he dodges that huge point.

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WhatsMadderU's avatar

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Whitney Webb

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Sturm und Drang's avatar

So now I’m obliged to help you make the connection between Maxwell, Wexner and Mossad? This is becoming very tedious. There is no point in debating the contents of a book. You’re clearly incurious and predisposed to a conclusion to the point of intellectual dishonesty. And that’s fine, you have every right to your point of view, I just entirely disagree with Michael Tracy. I used to appreciate some of his work but in my opinion he’s just destroying his credibility with his sophistry on this topic.

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Sturm und Drang's avatar

He finds Webb’s “One Nation Under Blackmail” unreadable? Did he selectively lose his reading comprehension? The book documents Epstein and Ghilane Maxwell’s relationship with the Mossad through her father Robert Maxwell in an apparent blackmail operation of powerful politicians. Do you require someone to read the book out loud for you to understand? Your concern about antisemitism is a clear reason why you are incurious. Tracy just torched his credibility on this topic. He’s now interviewing random people at the beach to make a point.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

You've proven the point splendidly that conspiracy theorists are unlikely to have actually read Webb's tedious books. The book does not actually document Epstein and Maxwell’s supposed relationship with the Mossad and there's no good evidence for any Mossad relationship excepting perhaps the worthless claims made by the known fantasist Ari Ben-Menashe who the government deemed "totally untrustworthy".

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Sturm und Drang's avatar

Oh geez, you restack Paul Krugman and Richard Hanania, this is explains your sophistry

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Sturm und Drang's avatar

Volume two of “one nation under blackmail” specifically(!) discusses the relationship between Epstein, the Maxwells, and Leslie Wexner. I’m uncertain where you are getting your conclusions from but there is no point in having a back and forth about what is factually true; which in this case is the contents of a book.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

I didn't mention Leslie Wexner at all but thank you for telling me that the book discusses the relationship between Epstein, Maxwell, and Wexner.

What I said was that "The book does not actually document Epstein and Maxwell’s supposed relationship with the Mossad"

Please wait for your schizophrenia medicine to kick in before responding next time.

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Dianne K's avatar

The “tipping point” should have been when he mocked the disabled reporter. His cult has no morals, no empathy, no character, no class. All they have is a bloated loud mouth who is a CHILD RAPIST.

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BigOinSeattle's avatar

To whom are you referring?

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Dianne K's avatar

I think I posted this under the wrong story?

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BookWench's avatar

I caught this last night on System Update.

FABULOUS!

You should do more interviews on the Jersey Shore, because you get such a wide range of people, and the New Jersey residents you interview trust you because you have roots there.

Great interviews! System Update's live chatters were cracking up.

(Great camera work by Meagan, too.)

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Jan Gam's avatar

Get over yourself, nobody cares about the Epstein files. The Democrats had them too They didn't release them.

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Mark my words's avatar

Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep at night.

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Nadja74's avatar

Well, Trump cannot be president, this is child sex trafficking is not like having sex with a porn star!! WTF is wrong with you? Do you have a daughter? Please get a vasectomy asap before you spread your stupidity further on this earth!

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Linda's avatar

Oh yes we do care! For all the women in America I care and you should too!

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Jan Gam's avatar

I didn't say I didn't care about women in America.

I think we have higher priorities than the Epstein files. We don't know if they will lead anywhere anyhow.

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LazySunLyn's avatar

Trump RAN ON TRANSPARENCY, it was his whole shtick--and he failed to deliver, as per fucking usual. He promised you a steak and gives you a shit sandwich and you’re like “Woohoo! We love it! This is what we wanted the whole time!! Gobble gobble!!” Lmfao. What a tool.

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Walking Hawk's avatar

Says someone who has no daughters and doesn’t give a shit.

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Jan Gam's avatar

Well, you've got the old name calling tradition of the liberals down. Impressive! I said the democrats had the documents if they wanted them released, they could've release them. You're ‘protecting pedophils’, rhetoric, it's pathetic and meaningless.

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TycheSD's avatar

You are funny. I get the feeling people in New Jersey feel they know Trump personally.

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Mike McCormick's avatar

This seems superficial and dishonest

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Douwe van der Werf's avatar

Haha and shirtless too 🤣

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Trfvb Hhgfd's avatar

More shirtless guys plz Michael

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Henry Miller's avatar

That was superb. And what an ending, nearly summoning a tidal wave to bring about his own glorious demise! Michael might be the Zohran Mamdani of New Jersey.

I'm welcoming myself to the Cult of Tracey.

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Thomas Paramo's avatar

If alien life appears at a trump rally, I personally would be embarrassed for the human race. Well, at least America. Would have to tell the captain of the alien spaceship to visit Canada or Mexico.

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Phillip A. Ross's avatar

BS

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Lynn Russell's avatar

Exactly. They lie any time they speak yes they are on the list. Bondi’s picture has been shown with Trump in younger years of both

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Donovan Marley's avatar

Are Donald Trump and Ghislaine Maxwell conspiring with their lawyers to keep their sordid truths from the American people?

Maxwell is a convicted sexual predator.

Multiple courts have found convicted criminal Donald Trump liable for sexual assault and ordered him to pay multi-million dollar damage assessments. He appealed each verdict but was unable to reverse the judgement of any of the courts.

Trump stands accused of sexual assault by 27 adult women. He is also accused of slapping and violently raping a 13 year-old girl provided to him by his good friends—the pedophile sex traffickers, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. (MAGAs respond to Trump’s predations with their “BOYS WILL BE BOYS” mantra to excuse the findings of the courts and dismiss all allegations of Trump’s predatory sexual attacks—including pedophilia.)

Trump’s long friendship and intense interactions with Epstein and Maxwell are confirmed by hundreds of sources—by Trump’s own effusive praise of their friendship, by photos, by videotapes, by narratives from Trump’s friends, by Trump’s card delivered on the occasion of Epstein’s 50th birthday, and by documents furnished by Trump’s enemies and friends—including The Wall Street Journal.

Release of the Epstein files obviously threatens Donald Trump and the entire Republican Party. They are hysterical. The American people deserve to know why.

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Paul Cusack's avatar

Random people look pretty good there!

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SW's avatar

We need more Bobs in the world.

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BookWench's avatar

My 34 year old son said he wants to be just like Bob when he gets old.

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Scuba Cat's avatar

So Epstein has been investigated many times for sex trafficking over decades. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that he was, in fact, trafficking in underage girls. In order for that to be true, they have to have been trafficked to someone. And Epstein Island isn't that easy to get to, unlike some street corner in L.A. He was definitely connected with the rich and powerful. And that's just the obvious stuff, not creepy-ass circumstatial stuff like this gem: https://images.app.goo.gl/kyaxQpkLkagstq3T6 I'm confused as to why you chose this hill to die on, man. And why it's important to link trafficking to “satanism” and “pizzagate,” as if it's ridiculous to think that trafficking happens. Trafficking happens, Michael. And sometimes the rich and powerful are immoral and a part of it.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

"In order for that to be true, they have to have been trafficked to someone."

Spoiler: That someone had the initials JE.

That you appear to believe that the word "trafficking" is synonymous with pimping is why the government uses these obscure words in the first place. Nobody is arguing that "trafficking" doesn't happen so clearly you are arguing in bad faith.

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BigOinSeattle's avatar

It’s implausible that Maxwell was trafficking only to Epstein. Both of Epstein’s houses were extensively wired for video. Acosta said he was told to back off from Epstein because he was an intelligence asset. This was in 2007 when Epstein got his sweetheart deal. Two people can tell the US attorney to back off: the president and the attorney general. They wouldn’t do it for a random perv.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

It's pretty implausible that Maxwell was trafficking to Jeffrey Epstein to begin.

No, his houses were not extensively wired for video, and no, Acosta was not told to back off from Epstein.

I don't know how you found this post, but maybe you can just read Tracey's writing on these things already.

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BigOinSeattle's avatar

You’re making claims that you can’t back up. YES, there were servers confiscated from Epstein properties. YES, Acosta did say that he was told to back off. You saying he was lying? Any reason for him to back off otherwise? Nobody gets a sweetheart deal like JE got in FL. Palm Beach cops were furious at it. I’ve followed Tracey for a while, thanks.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

Okay, since you're so sure that Acosta said this, when did he say this? Let me guess, it was in some congressional testimony you swear you saw but the Jews at Google are hiding from you?

I'm not saying Acosta lied, I'm saying he never said it, and he denied that Epstein was intelligence under oath.

No, you haven't been following this stuff at all because it has already been addressed including in Tracey's most recent article about Webb. Just "do your own research" like you types constantly demand of others.

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BigOinSeattle's avatar

Press conference, although he later recanted under oath

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Guven Cagil's avatar

Michael Tracey's interviewing is at top level in this video, and he has a super closing with the atlantic ocean as a backdrop. The woman he interviewed had very intelligent answers. Perhaps, Michael Tracey has watched Grizzly Man and utilized the ending to that film, as influence for the ending to this video. Smart move!

Also, I saw Eddington yesterday. Pretty good film but too much gun violence toward the end. The director could have made clearer that all the people, except the sheriff, doing the shooting to be wearing Covid masks, in the almost empty desert at night. That would've been something. Of course, if you wanted to make the film 4 hours long, Lieutenant Columbo could have come on in the second or third-to-last scene. I wonder that extended cut would look like?

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