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Sam McGowan's avatar

I don't know if Wendy has false memories or if she just came out to get the money. I do know what the girls interviewed by police said, that they were paid to give Epstein massages and got more if they did it in the nude or partially clothed. A couple reported actual sexual contact but they were the ones who had become part of the group he called back. Personally, while I have no problem with keeping the identies of MINORS secret while they are minors, not revealing the identity of plaintiffs is asking for fraud. Lisa Phillips is a definite fraud. The woman has told so many versions of how she began massaging Epstein, I doubt she knows herself. Yes, she gave him massages but did it happen the first night she was on his island or was it after she knew him for a while and he "groomed" her. The3re were a lot of problems with "recovered memories" in women in their late 30s and 40s in the 1990s, with women coming out claiming they had been abused by their fathers and suppressed it. Look, I was molested as a child (not by a parent)- you DON'T suppress the memory. You NEVER forget it. Money is responsible for all kinds of "memories" that never happened.

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Michael Tracey's avatar

Lisa Phillips is such an obvious absurdity -- incredible that no one questions it.

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Sam McGowan's avatar

People don't question because they don't take the time to read claims she has made. In a documentary I saw recently, she claimed Epstein "groomed her" and coerced her into giving him massages. Then somewhere else she claimed Epstein called for a massage the first night she was on his island and the friend who had brought her there, another model, took her to his cabin and they massaged him. Then there is Sarah Ransome, who has made all kinds of claims. She is a former Scottish whore who moved to New York to try to become a model. BTW, these idiots throwing shit at you have no clue. None of them have ever read a single document pertaining to the case. They're just a mob brought to excitement by unscrupulous journalists and podcasters who are just out to get followers.

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Nicole's avatar

This is true. Lisa Phillips said in one doc that she was assaulted by Epstein, in another she said she was not his type. Which I dont think she is his type. All and all there are a ton of unsealed court docs, affidavits and depositions that will keep you reading for months. I keep catching one lie after another.

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Sam McGowan's avatar

You're right about that. There are tons of court records, police interviews, depositions, enough to keep you busy for months.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Tracey, you are an obvious obscenity. Clearly you are working for Israel to obfuscate the truth of his actions. You are a disgrace.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Anti Semite. Small minds. w0e-MEN grifting on rape is a FAR MORE serious phenomenon then right-wing conspiracy theories about Israeli influence on American politics., while I do see pandering to Israel I also see pandering to police and pandering to w0e-MEN as well. I can disagree with these things and still defend the TRUTH. And that is what Michael is defending. The TRUTH. These HOES are LYING.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Anti semite isn’t the cudgel you think it is. It used to be a weapon. Now it’s just something Northern Europeans that steal things say to scare people. Fuck you and cunt Michael Tracy. If you think Epstein’s connections to Israel are a conspiracy “theory “ , but simultaneously believe that Epstein didn’t use the women involved for blackmail, you’re a retarded cunt too. But the truth is that, like any Zionist, you’re in league with Satan.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Epstein served his time. The rest is double jeopardy. Even if Epstein ran a prostitution ring and even IF he used it to blackmail people, that has NOTHING to do with these HOES grifting on rape. They are LAIRS.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Fat fuck has gone out of his way to say that the proof of Epstein’s innocence pertaining to blackmail, is based on Giuffre and other’s credibility. That’s ridiculous. His connections to Zionist scum are irrefutable. There’s no “if”. Now go back and edit your rant for spelling errors.

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Nicole's avatar

When he was picked up in 2019, they re-instated the 2002-2005 charges he already served time on. He was charged at the federal level in NY. In 2002-2005 the case did not meet the criteria for federal level. It barely made state based on lack of actual evidence. Then he had to wait a year for a trial.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Take it from an idolator who uses a picture of Jesus as his avatar.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Enjoy Hell you pedophile apologist.

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Michael Etcheto's avatar

Kike Fedaggot

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

SIMP/SCUM. Anyone who wear tattoos on their face gives away their lack of self value

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Michael Etcheto's avatar

FAFO on the second cause the talking phase is nearing its end. I wonder what financial entanglements you have? I and most are not looking to target the Jews; that you falsche juden hide behind, just your satanic kind, which sadly infests much of the globe in disparate masks.

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Val Crosby's avatar

Dude, your most recent restack about Kash Patel is hilarious just exposes how clueless you are right away.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

BINGO!

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Douglas Levene's avatar

Thank you, Mr. Tracey, for your dogged pursuit of the truth. No one else seems to care about the truth, only about the narrative.

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Garrett Phillips's avatar

Yes, they may be creating false memories. Also, many of them are probably lying and exaggerating to cash in.

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Te Reagan's avatar

After I found out they’ve already received millions of dollars. I’m not so keen on listening to them.

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BookWench's avatar

Off topic, so apologies, but I finally watched "Eddington" on your recommendation, and really enjoyed it.

I knew I would love it within the first few minutes, during a discussion on masking.

Very entertaining -- though admittedly strange -- flick that reflects the lunacy of the Covid era.

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Marco's avatar

Very interesting post. Your work is laudable and necessary.

It is ironinc that "survivors" demand transparency in the Epstein files (a demand also made to the Catholic Church with their respective documents), but these "victims" are not transparent at all about their own cases. Unfortunately, no trial can be made, so there is plenty of room for them to be as opaque as they like. I think that once they *decide* to go public with this, there is an ethical resposibility to be transparent about telling what happened exactly, especially when the other party cannot defend himself. What they are doing is to make the snowball bigger. It triggers speculation and taboo.

You speak about these "survivors" getting very generous compen$ations. But you didn't mention that they are promoting a huge campaign to fund and develop comprehensive sexual education for teenagers and to pass a bill about sex education in schools. (sorry, I was being sarcastic here...)

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Wodek Szemberg's avatar

Epstein story hasn't been about facts in quite some time. I've tried to articulate it here: https://wodekszemberg.substack.com/p/epstein-the-devil

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Nicole's avatar

I guess I am a bit confused by your article. His preference was 18-25 year olds. Not children. In the court docs I have read the sweetheart deal era females lied about their ages to be there with him. They told the authorities, under oath they told him and his assistants they were 18 or older. They have also said they were recruited. Guiffre being one and Haley Robson being another, she has also admitted to this. They would purposely chose females that were more developed, gussy them up then coach them on what to say to Epstein. That defeats the purpose of being a "pedophile". Now there is no proof at all about 11 or 12 year old's. I believe that was another lie that came from Guiffre. (For example the 12 year old triplets). These girls were duped and Epstein was duped. I guess one of the big questions with me is, was Guiffre framing him?

We now know Guiffre, Maria Farmer and Sarah Ransome all perjured themselves. At least Sarah Ransome came clean and admitted it.

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Wodek Szemberg's avatar

At this point it really no longer matters how old they were. What matters is that Epstein has been elevated to the level of a myth. And for that to be the case, all the "girls' he has been with have been declared under age.

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Eric's avatar

Why is this author so invested in defending Epstein?

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New Way's avatar

He's not defending Epstein in any way. Epstein is dead. He's defending truth and reality. He's exposing those that choose to deceive for personal gain, allowing for completely pointless mass hysteria. Anyone who knowingly lacks reverence for the truth or leads other people astray from the what is real, is poisoning society and their own life. If they are lucky, they'll one day discover that their torment comes from this inauthenticity

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Michael Tracey's avatar

Well said!

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Val Crosby's avatar

low IQ comment

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BookWench's avatar

Michael is not defending Epstein.

He is simply practicing actual journalism, in questioning those who claim to be "survivors."

If they are legit, then they should be able to describe what went on. They don't have to go into lurid detail, but to continually refuse to answer any questions about what they allegedly endured is a bit sketchy.

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BookWench's avatar

Trump.

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BookWench's avatar

I am still in favor of releasing all the Epstein files, & I have no idea what you're referring to with your "limited in scope" remark on journalism.

I have never asked for anyone to "stop slandering Epstein," and I am NOT a Trump cultist. I have also never seen Trump bungle anything as badly as he has this issue. I have no idea what he was up to, other than possibly protecting fat cat donors' associations with Epstein being uncovered -- whether they did anything untoward or not.

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Garrett Phillips's avatar

Due process, how does it work?

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Nicole's avatar

How much research have done? Just curious. I mean reading legitimate court docs and anything else that has credibility to it.

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John's avatar

Because his whole schtick is being a contrarian "truth revealer," for addle-brains. And because he enjoys being called the turd-flinger that he is.

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Mandy Jeremiah's avatar

I understand these articles are quite profitable for Michael Tracey, or profitable enough anyway, but it's such a terrible combination of poor journalism and pretend lawyerism that I'm not really sure if Tracey believes his own arguments. Not that there are many arguments made so much as unfocused speculations that merely aim to seed as many doubts as possible that would render virtually any victim of any crime a completely unreliable.

This article hits all the key notes: anti-therapy, mental health stigmatization, meal ticket insinuations, etc. Much can be critiqued in this single article that could fill a book, so I'll only, briefly, focus on one point:

"If so, was she told to lie about her age and say she was 18?"

The underaged girls lying about their ages as an out were neither convincing in the criminal investigation nor lawsuits. Given that Epstein was an intelligent, savvy, middle aged man who would, as victim depositions indicated, turn away girls if they had verbally to him confessed being under 18, it would be reasonable to believe Epstein would have taken much greater precautions to ensure the ages of individuals were, at least, the age of majority.

And, of course, Tracey frames the discourse as innocent, investigative journalism instead of what it that is: preying on the lost who are easily distracted by identity politics as he champions the cause of the capitalist class.

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Michael Tracey's avatar

It's funny how you think these articles are somehow hugely "profitable," and that's my ulterior motive. Let me assure you, fomenting hysteria and mythology is always much more profitable.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Everything you said is ass backwards. Michael Tracy is an excellent journalist with an uncommon integrity that is virtually nonexistent in journalism. His audience is small, and he hardly makes a profit on sub stack. Only FOOLS would believe these GOLD-DIGGING WHORES. I find it outrageous that virtually all rape accusers are ex HOES, B actors and scorned ex-girlfriends. NO bruises, NO ripped clothing, NO hospital reports, YOU LIED! An absolute outrage that the lowest & cheapest w0e-MEN get to cry rape even though THEY WERE HOOKERS! I DONT BELIEVE >ANY OF EPSTEIN'S ACCUSERS.

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Ted VO's avatar

Amazing what $$ can do to jog one's memory.

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DFG's avatar

I’ve never understood how survivors of the Holocaust remember everything that happened to them in Auschwitz, yet someone who experienced considerably less trauma claims to have repressed memories. Next thing you know they have a team of lawyers and prosecutors available to help them heal and collect compensation from the suddenly identified perpetrators (with a third of the compensation going to the attorneys of course).

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Nicole's avatar

Because they are lying. I was just reading a court doc yesterday, and Guiffre who has stated in the past, that she remembers who assaulted her, seemed to have forgotten who else she was "loaned out" to. It was another Prince but she didnt remember his name, when it happened or where. There were also a number of other men she just didnt remember anything about. Couldnt provide names, places, times ect. When she was asked if it was written down, she said yes but she burned everything. Then she was asked if she had counsel at the time she burned everything, she said yes. Then she was asked why her counsel didnt request to review what she had and she really didnt have an answer. But her attorney knew she had notes on names, times, places and what not. I mean you cant make this stuff up!

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Andrew Murphy's avatar

Guffrie has become a secular saint and now untouchable. It’s remarkable . Her own lawyers admitted in the Dershowitz Defamation trial she fictionalized her story but the mythology now has taken a life of its own

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Nicole's avatar

I can see what you're saying but I have been in discussion (sometimes heated) online with people that want to defend her with zero evidence to prove anything happened and once i share some of the docs I have, they do read it and come around a little. She definitely is not untouchable. And I did read Guilt by Accusation by Dershowitz and it is stated in his book that her story was fictional.

Maxwell did not like her at all and warned Epstein that she was a liar.

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DFG's avatar

I would disagree with one minor point. Clearly you CAN make this stuff up!

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Nicole's avatar

The fact that people just run with it without doing any research is mind blowing!

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Madjack's avatar

Appreciate you doing your job. Keep it up.

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Kathryn Hennessy's avatar

Great article Michael. Greed is the common denominator here along with the Warhol 10 minutes of fame.

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Unset's avatar

At this point every millennial woman who has ever been to Florida should probably come forward. It will be like a Facebook class action settlement, everyone can get $11

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Nicole's avatar

Why?

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PL's avatar

Michael, you have been crushing it on Epstein-gate! Thanks.

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DECQuine's avatar

Starting to get nauseous now, every time I read another overblown fictional narrative.

Well, at least those poor survivors will get a payday out of it, while the rest of us delude ourselves that justice is being served.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

HOES shouldn't get ONE penny. I find it outrageous that PROSTITUTES are being further incentivized with $money to be what they are! Since most rape accusers are ex hoes, giving a financial incentive to HOES to claim victimhood just reinforces the cycle.

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Nicole's avatar

I get where you're coming from. The 90's females were loaded with "paid escorts" if you will. They were all over 20. Alot of college students too in need of money.

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New Way's avatar

Relax, you're swinging too far the other way.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

LOL. You have some nerve telling me that I'm swinging too far the other way. You just said about Guiffre: "Life dispatched her appropriately" The case can be made that >you're swinging too far the other way. I too am cynical about her feigned victimhood, but I don't gloat on her offing herself.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

NO, I don't think so. Cut the bullshit disclaimers. It doesn't make you look more objective. There is nothing I said that's swinging too far the other way. I'm not on the left or right. I call it the way I see it.

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New Way's avatar

It sounds like you angry at women or prostitutes. Anger is always an error. Prostitutes aren't that bad, although some are gross. These Epstein girls suck, but even Michael said he might have done the same thing for millions of dollars.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

What's wrong with being angry at the low quality of modern w0e-MEN? The case can be made that w0e-MEN hate MEN even more so than the other way around. I think Michael was just covering his ass when he said that.

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New Way's avatar

There's no low quality of modern women. That's a story your subconscious is coming up with to deflect accountability, likely for your own maladaptations. When anger starts to show up, it means there's something within you that needs correcting, not other people.

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DECQuine's avatar

If the verdict comes down around the holidays next year, the lawyers can say to the accusers "Hoe, Hoe, Hoe. Meeeery Christmas!"

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