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PamHo's avatar

I've come to the realization that this Epstein drama as a whole is the logical outcome to the #MeToo movement, i.e., any famous or rich person for the foreseeable future has to be on guard because not only are there going to be pretty scammers looking for a payout you need to be constantly fearful of, but now even the supposedly honest and heroic politicians will be shown to be be easily shorn of their wings and revealed to be just like all the rest (scammy) if they believe they can make a name for themselves by joining the braying mob of scammy head cases.

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Val Crosby's avatar

It’s #MeToo and QAnon in one, a dangerous combination indeed.

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Sam McGowan's avatar

It wouldn't have been so inflated if it hadn't been for Me Too, and for Alexander Ocasta's impending appointment as US Attorney General. It's all political

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Ebenezer's avatar

I don't think fake victims are convincing evidence against the existence of real victims.

https://xcancel.com/TheJusticeDept/status/1963635111112446449#m

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

Anouska was allowed to testify under the pseudonym Kate, ostensibly to protect her daughter. Well, now she's waived her anonymity and has a new podcast called the Empowered Exchange that has "insightful conversations that inspire confidence, growth, and transformation". Okay.

The defense had a witness named Alexander Hamilton who gave an affidavit saying that Anouska told him the Epstein case had "fallen into her lap" and that Anouska was planning to write a book and use the Epstein money to move to Italy.

One problem with allowing accusers to testify pseudonymously is that such witnesses for the defense have to be tracked down by the defense at considerable expense. If it was publicly known that Anouska was one of Maxwell's accusers, might other associates of hers have gotten in contact with the defense on their own to pooh-pooh her claims?

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Charles's avatar

Pretty sure they were not anonymous to the defense, just to the public/press at trial.

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Rob Landeros's avatar

I love your exuberantly healthy skepticism. I too doubt the claims of some of these self-proclaimed victims. At the same time that does not negate the near certainty that Epstein trafficked in sex with untold and unknown numbers of young females who have been ignored and sidelined by the "justice" system. That should not get lost in the sensationalist melee and disappointing behaviour of MTG and Thomas Massie.

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Theresa Thompson's avatar

You kicked the hornets nest. Stay on it Michael.

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Simon's avatar
2dEdited

The women will kick “the hornet’s nest” when they release the names.

At least they’re putting their word on the line, unlike Trump, who is trying to intimidate people into dropping the issue. Doesn’t that tell you enough?

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Theresa Thompson's avatar

They stated they're compiling a "confidential" list. They're not going to release it. What's the point of a confidential list? Maybe ask yourself why they'd do that?

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James Jenkins's avatar

Yes. So if the Epstein accusers already claim to have a list of names and then they assert to keep confidential then it begs the question what transparency list are they publicly arguing to be released ? When they claim they know it and won’t release it ? . Could it be that so called list is mainly the list that came from sworn allegations of Virginia ? That have turned out to be unproven or false or a fabulist story ? Or if any other women who may have been or were allegedly introduced by Epstein to any of his business associates was likely prima facie legal conduct as they were above age at the time of alleged meetings back in the 2000s ( as Bradley Edwards attorney even carefully and conspicuously alluded ). Further, any men tainted by publicly disclosure by mere association with Epstein will likely sue.

I would rather see all files everything released un-redacted out including un- redacted statements by then above age accusers too like Sarah Ransome, Virgina , Maria Farmer etc which will prove and show the proven false stories they peddled including others like Hayley Robson who bragged to police in Florida that she was Heidi Fleiss for Epstein and she was going to be charged in 2007 but now claims she was a victim and then claimed millions on Epstein fund too. But the accusers lawyers are demanding and so is the proposed by Massie Epstein transparency Bill any female that identifies as a victim and went to lawyers like Bradley Edward’s and others fir compensation first gets to hide behind anonymity and confidentiality at will for selective reasons.

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Joe Nolan's avatar

It was a perfectly legit question that gets to the heart of why "believe all women" is irrational and unrealistic. Quoting Brian Wilson, "Wouldn't it be nice?"

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Dollyboy's avatar

I just remembered that I was abused by Epstein as well! How do I get in on this?

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James Jenkins's avatar

You make a claim to the Epstein fund and you will be good to go - just need an ambulance chasing lawyer to help you claim that you are “ victim “ too . If Epstein touched your hand 20 years ago remember that is “ serious abuse “ too and you could get over 1 million or 2 if you had a topless massage by a female associate of Epstein

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Carol Lewis's avatar

These women are exploiting, for money, the politics of the senators and congressmen who all have TDS. They sounded so phony yesterday I couldn’t believe they were given a platform to perform. This is out of control.

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Val Crosby's avatar

You could say EDS, Epstein Derangement Syndrome!

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Eric Brooks's avatar

While I'm really glad you are posting these reports, we do need to remember that Epstein and Maxwell, even if their crimes have been exaggerated, did indeed victimize people and both lured and coerced naive under age girls into sex work. If they had been similarly entrapping 14 year old boys and girls into a life of coal mining, none of us would be cool with that. And we should not be cool with what Epstein and his fellow cads were up to.

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James Jenkins's avatar

And even the serious sex trafficking charge ( that Ghislaine was unsoundly convicted for and received 20 years for in a me 2 world as obvious replacement for Epstein death that was conflated using me 2 witnesses as noted here with Kate and Annie and as Professor Dershowitz noted the 2 concurrent trials against Ghislaine Maxwell Op Ed ) that many people like sheep brainlessly fail to fully know or address was tacked on in a superseding indictment against her was solely on the basis of one substantive witness Epstein accuser Carolyn who was ‘schizophrenic’ - who made demonstrable prior inconsistent statements to police in or around 2007. For instance in 2007 only 2 years after the alleged incidents she never once mentioned Maxwell to police - she said she was recruited by her friend Virginia for Epstein and the massages for Epstein were scheduled by Epstein staff member Sarah Kellen. And let’s not forget Juror 50 who told false statements on his juror questionaire and then bragged to media that he based his decision on feelings rather than anything but proof and then bragged how he convinced other jury members who had doubts on the testimony to convict her because Juror 50 was abused as a kid and his feeling was the witnesses Carolyn & Jane was tellling the truth even if no proof directly against Ghislaine and as Greg Barnes KC famous criminal defence and human rights barrister said was a disgraceful her convictions ever stood at all overall.

The same with Jane ( a days of our lives actress ) the other 2nd of 2 substantive witnesses used against Ghislaine- brought to Epstein Florida house by her mother and stated there was lots of naked females around the pool like Hugh Hefner style ( independent of GM ). Well, she told FBI major prior inconsistent statements in which she couldn’t recall if Ghislaine was ever present when she was in improper conduct or when massaging Epstein - then subsequently claimed she lost her virginity to Epstein at 17 ( or 18 ) in New York were Ghislaine was never present. New York age of consent is 17. Or when she recalled travelling to NY during Lion King which would have made her 17 rather than 16 - which was crucial for illegal travel under the Mann act. Nevertheless GM was dubiously convicted for that too . Again inconsistent and doubtful testimony that didht quite fit the Mann Act charge against Ghislaine Maxwell that she not only got 10 year sentence for as an alleged enabler more fitting for a primary offender such as Nygard or Epstein.

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Eric Brooks's avatar

What nonsense. You snowflake Epstein/Maxwell apologists seem to have no clue how difficult and rare it is for wealthy white people to be wrongfully convicted of crimes. It almost never happens.

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Koshmap's avatar

DJT, the epitome of a 'wealthy white person,' was convicted of sexual abuse and defamation in connection with E Jean Carroll's allegation that he raped her in a women's dressing room at Bloomingdale's, and he was also convicted of mortgage fraud even though the mortgage lender testified that the company suffered no damage (since banks never rely on the borrower's assessment of property value) and would be happy to do business with him again. Of course, anyone who believes the 'victims' in the Epstein sage would probably have no problem believing Carroll's preposterous story.

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Eric Brooks's avatar

Incorrect. The E Jean Carroll case was a civil lawsuit, with a much lower burden of proof than a criminal case. We are talking above about criminal convictions of Epstein and Maxwell.

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Jordana Stoddart's avatar

"If they had been similarly entrapping 14 year old boys and girls into a life of coal mining, none of us would be cool with that"

Maybe so, but I don't think there'd be much weeping over the trauma inflicted upon the coalmine survivors.

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Eric Brooks's avatar

We outlawed child labor for very good reasons.

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Leon Voß's avatar

GPT says the penalty for hiring children is a <$10,000 fine and up to 60 days in jail (misdemeanor charge) if repeated. How do we square that with Ghislaine's 20 year sentence?

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Eric Brooks's avatar

Simple. Entrapping a child into what is essentially forced indentured servitude should be a major felony whether it is sex work or otherwise. And I'm guessing that Maxwell's sentence results from the fact that there are already stricter laws for entrapping children as sex workers. Epstein and Maxwell were scumbag pimps. Period.

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Dan Henry's avatar

So are you a paid Israeli asset or are you auditioning to become one?

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Maggie jervis's avatar

Annie Farmer - licenced psychologist - is not currently accepting any new clients, but you can go on her wait list. Apparently she has had an incredibly successful career, which is incredible in itself considering how 'injured' she was by the 'sexual abuse' by Epstein (what was it exactly?) Anyway her incredibly successful expertise is said to be working with sexual abuse victims, using her own experience. You'd think she might want to put that behind her. But, maybe the incredible success is teaching her clients how to make compo claims based on a retro 'diagnosis' like PTSD or even better Complex PTSD which is often a reterming of 'Dissociative Idenity disorder' a reterming of ' multiple personality disorder' . These are often iatrogenic disorders -ie created by the hypnotic therapeutic method to believe in mutiple 'selves' inhabiting the same 'host' (what would normally be called 'the person'). These 'alters' of various ages and sexes act out a narrative drama not unlike the kind of scenes painted by Annie's sister Maria. The key is they are emergent together with the content of their 'memory' - that is it's a blend of fact and fiction or just make believe. You might called it 'method acting' with benefits (ie $$$m compo). Anyway the fact that Annie uses her own experiences to therapise her clients re sexual abuse marks it out as 'cult' psychology in my book. BTW Elizabeth Stein, the adult trafficked victim, has an impressive array of diagnoses too. In addition to PTSD or CPTSD she suffers from CPRS - complex regional pain syndrome which means she has a continued hysterical reaction to alleged physical injury even if no nerve damage is apparent. I think this might have come under the ambit of 'neurasthenia' around the turn of the 20th century when middle and upper class mostly women suffered hysterical paralysis etc and treatment was often based on 'psychoanalyis' of the freudian genre where a 'hidden history' of sexual abuse was invented as a narrative cure. An alternative diagnosis was that these people were disarmed by the cultural changes around them and of course it was 'catching'. The first world war put an end to the fad.

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BookWench's avatar

Wow!

So many scams. . .

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

I look forward to more of this righteous reporting from you Mr. Tracey.

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Fren's avatar

Just watched your appearance on GLENN’S show. I have a lot of respect for GLENN—he's one of the more principled journalists out there—but his animus toward Israel is so extreme that he’s willing to flip on a dime when it comes to Epstein. Watching him berate you like a puritanical scold was surreal. This is the same guy who moved to Brazil at 38 and married a 19-year-old favela kid. Are we really pretending there’s some profound moral chasm between 17 and 19? The sanctimony doesn’t hold up.

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James Jenkins's avatar

Sorry Glenn has Israel derangement syndrome

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Did glen troll the high schools for at least 150 such relationships.? Your assertion is pathetic. Like all the other Epstein apologists

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Fren's avatar

So just to be clear, Chuck—you’re fine with a wealthy 38-year-old American lawyer moving to Brazil and marrying a barely-legal 19-year-old from a favela? Because that’s Glenn. No trolling high schools, sure—but power dynamics, age gap, and economic disparity? All present.

You seem strangely comfortable with that, yet you’re outraged by others simply pointing it out. So which is it—do you support those kinds of relationships, or are you only offended when it’s someone else doing the moralizing?

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

A discussion about the difference between one 19 year old and a multitude of children, some at least as young as 14 , is fucking retarded. Are you a registered sex offender or merely an argumentative attention whore like Michael Tracey?

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Fren's avatar

Chuck, name the alleged “14-year-old victims.” Go ahead—we’ll wait. Because every high-profile “survivor” we’ve seen in court or in the media was 17, 18, or well into adulthood when they were involved with Epstein. You’re throwing out inflammatory numbers with zero evidence to score cheap points.

Also, explain the moral difference between a 38-year-old man marrying a 19-year-old poor boy from a favela… and a 36-year-old involved with a 17-year-old. Go on—walk us through the logic. You clearly think one is fine, but the other is evil. Why?

And while you're at it: Is SCOTT RITTER on Epstein's list or Putin’s list? What about JUDGE NAPOLITANO? Or do their preferences fall under a different category of silence? Is it ok when so called "anti imperialist" do it?

Try dealing with the actual argument instead of flailing with slurs and straw men.

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Fren's avatar

Chuck, did you even read the article you posted? It cites allegations from the U.S. Virgin Islands Attorney General’s office—the same people who let Epstein operate on their turf for decades while raking in the benefits. There’s not a single named 14-year-old. No confirmed identities. No prosecutions. Just another bureaucratic CYA move after the guy was dead. Weak stuff.

Meanwhile, you're dodging every real question:

You still haven’t named a single confirmed 14-year-old victim.

You still haven’t explained why Glenn’s 38/19 marriage to a favela teen is ethical, but 36/17 is monstrous.

You still haven’t said a word about Scott Ritter or Judge Napolitano.

And here's a little context for you, since you're allergic to it:

Wikipedia: “In Brazil, the age of consent is 14, regardless of gender or orientation. Although not legally formalized, there is judicial precedent allowing a close-in-age exception for those aged 12–13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are as much as 5 years older.”

So Glenn—a wealthy adult lawyer—voluntarily moved to Brazil, a country with one of the lowest age-of-consent standards in the Western Hemisphere, and married a 19-year-old from a favela. Yet he has the gall to clutch pearls and scold Tracey on air?

If he’s so morally consistent, why hasn’t he ever spoken out against Brazil’s barbaric child consent laws? Maybe it’s time for Glenn and his anti-imperialist goblins to abandon their cosplay revolution and launch a new crusade:

“Raise the Age of Consent in Brazil.”

Because let’s be honest—since you’ve miserably failed to “Free Free Palestine,” it might be time to aim a little lower… say, the Brazilian criminal code?

Try again, Chuck. This time with receipts, not insults.

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James Jenkins's avatar

Glenn Greenwald imo is a unhinged double standard hypocrite

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Jennifer Jenkins's avatar

No other females happily and willingly found other females to recruit - it wasn’t against their will

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Val Crosby's avatar

People like Marjorie Taylor Greene are completely open about shutting down any discussion about this that deviates from the official conspiracy theory, and they're getting praised for it. People don't care about truth they just want to be on the "good side" of the moral panic.

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Andrew Murphy's avatar

And the reality of it is if Blondi releases all the files tomorrow, nobody will be happy. The Whitney Webb Right will say where is the rest of it and the Left will say there has to be more cause there is not enough on Trump. So they have to hiding Trump dirt. Which is why the grandstanding is so pathetic on both sides

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Lisa N.'s avatar

I appreciate your tenacity, Michael! I would be interested in learning more details about the various victim funds which have been established (i.e., where, when, by whom, for what claims, who received what payouts, etc.). It seems like you have some knowledge of it as you reference it several times in the article. Obviously a pot of money lends itself to having folks turn themselves into victims, like perhaps Farmer. I would also like to know more about what he was doing paying off Virgin Island officials to get privileges and legal exceptions for whatever he was doing on the island. It seems like there are a lot of adult women who claim to be victims or who have fabricated stories about men, but it seems like there was a venue for a lot of younger or perhaps foreign women or girls to be victimized at the island resort he created. It seems like the ones at the press conference were claiming to be victims in his Florida residence? I have a hard time keeping track of it all.

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NatSocToday's avatar

Why would a guy so is so fucking innocent need a victims fund?

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Lisa N.'s avatar

Well I understand that at least one of the funds was established by a financial institution/brokerage house as a way to buy itself out of litigation that associated them with Epstein and his financial misconduct.

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NatSocToday's avatar

Misconduct? His account is still active. They don't want to face discovery.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

💯

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BookWench's avatar

And I believe I read somewhere that the age of consent on that island was only 13.

Maybe the youngest victims were native girls on that island.

I wonder how much compensation any of them got?

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

You also have the right to remain silent. Everyone in this comment section applauding Tracey gives off a real pedo vibe. You’re fucking disgusting.

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BookWench's avatar

What is disgusting about being skeptical as to whether any of of the youngest victims received any compensation, when victims who were in their 20's when they met Epstein have scored large settlements?

I kind of doubt the poor girls on the island received much of anything at all.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

You cheering Micheal Tracey as a brave truth teller is pathetic. No one has really differentiated between girls in their 20s vs girls in the island. Don’t try and change the subject.

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BookWench's avatar

What are you so angry about?

My point was that the poor, darker young teens on the island have probably been left out of all of the victim compensation schemes, while the women who met Epstein when they were in their 20’s are being held up as “survivors” and generously compensated.

I suspect that Epstein worked for Mossad, MI6, and the CIA, and was running a blackmail operation. However, as Michael has pointed out, we really have no evidence for this at the moment. He’s just asking questions that nobody seems to be able to answer.

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NatSocToday's avatar

JFC...no, we have lots and lots of evidence. But you want a video of Epstein saying, "Yes, I worked for Mosaad and the CIA, and I'm a sexual degenerate because I'm a jew!" Are you a Boomer? Cause you sound like a Boomer or at least somehow infected with Boomerthink. Michael here is shitting on the last of his dubious "credibility". And apparently you want to join in on it. Whatever. This is time for critical thinking, not begging for more "proof" beyond what you already have. Just get the list.

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NatSocToday's avatar

Have you bothered to check out the fucking size of the Island? Conservatives are so fucking stupid. @Bookwench. Learn to read!

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John Smithson's avatar

One purported victim claims that Epstein's lawyer threatened to kill her newborn baby. I asked on a Substack post whether that person ever produced evidence that that threat had been made. I got vilified for it.

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Gutterdandy's avatar

This is looking more and more like another #MeToo scam. Gloria Allred, even! The smell of easy money 💰 is drawing them out of the woodwork.

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NatSocToday's avatar

You're right, cause Harvey Weinstein is as pure has driven snow. He's a fucking jew peach. They just made it all the fuck up. I'll bet a shiney new nickel you're a Boomer. Fucking Boomers ALWAYS defend pervert jews. That why the entire world hates Boomers.

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