At this point we are all Epstein victims . . . the true number is in the billions. I need to start thinking about what I'll spend my $16.23 settlement money on
I'm an Epstein survivor. That is to say, I survived listening to the splendiforous bullshit about Epstein. I feel like my mind has been "raped" by Epstein conspiracists.
Michael has done some excellent investigative journalism in the past but this is pure bullshit. The opposite of what he is saying is the real truth. The goverment, Kash Patel included, is doing everything it can to stifle evidence of Epstein's crimes. They drag their feet, they redact like crazy, they obfuscate, they lie. They keep suggesting there is nothing really there. Almost every national politician in both parties is doing everything he or she can to make this story go away. I even think Trump's hostile actions towards Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran are part of the distraction. WW3 may well happen as a result of trying to put a lid on the Epstein story. Millions may die to make this story go away.
You’ve clearly not paid any attention to this case in detail. The coverup is occurring for apparently the opposite reason--they don’t want to come right out and declare 90 percent of the conspiracy theories about Epstein false even though they should, so they weasel word their findings with massive deference to accusers and their lawyers, very few of whom had to prove anything in court.
Even if ony 10% of the accusations are true this is still the biggest political scandal in American history. And it involves prominant politicians in both parties. You accuse me of not paying attention in detail. I accuse you of the same. I also accuse Michael Tracey of the same. I have read dozens of shocking emails No grand jury would decline to indict. Yes, there is a coverup, but not a coverup of proof that everyone associate with Epstein was innocent. Quite the contrary. Victims deserve their day in court.
No it's not lmao. The 10 percent or so that IS true revolves around the Palm Beach scandal, involving no politicians, no Ghislaine Maxwell, no trafficking ring, no Prince Andrew. Interestingly enough most of you people have no clue about that, you know...the thing Epstein got arrested and jailed and got on the sex offender registry for??
IMAO = In my arrogant opinion. Emphasis on the word arrogant. You are no authority. You haven't read 1% of the relevant material. Neither have I, but I pay attention to people who have.
It appears our government felt the need to weasel word their findings to placate millions of potentially dangerous idiots. And at this point I doubt the few pieces of "CSAM" they apparently did find is what most people think.
I read through the FBI report and there's no doubt it debunks the claim of a massive child exploitation ring. ONLY Virginia Roberts made such claims and her claims were not substantiated by other alleged victims. Of course, those of us who had read the police interviews already knew this. As to the exaggeration of the number of victims, it has to be political. There were something like 30-40 payout under the victims restitution fund then about 150-200 from the funds lawyers bilked from the banks.
Also remember what "CSAM" actually is. Its supposed to stand for "Child sexual abuse material". But remember this is just a different name for "Child pornography". And remember, the definition of "child" is anyone under the age of 18.
You can end up in a ridiculous situation where you live in a state where the age of consent is 16 and you have legal sex with your 16 year old girlfriend, but if you make a video of you having sex you are producing "Child sexual abuse material". Despite the material depicting legal sex!
Also I can go to Spain during the summer, and take a picture of topless women on the beach, if they happen to be 17 I am producing "Child sexual abuse material". Despite it only depicting a womans big breasts on the beach!
Keep up the good work. You are a modern-day Cassandra, cursed by the Gods to speak truths no one believes. It is accurate to state that so far, there is no chargeable evidence against any living person for being part of an Epstein pedo sex ring. But that makes people angry because they just know that there is. But I have confidence in you that you will be the first to report it if any such evidence is found.
So the Epstein Files case is either the most horrific case of child sex trafficking in history, and involved rape, torture and multiple murders by some of the richest and most politically connected people on Earth, who are in the verge of getting away with it. Or it is a complete hoax that was ginned up by personal injury attorneys, their greedy clients and ambitious politicians to smear political enemies. Under the second scenario the only real victims are Jeffrey Epstein, who was either murdered of tricked into suicide, and Gislaine Maxwell who got 20 years in prison for doing absolutely nothing. Is there a third option? As it stands now I have absolutely no idea which version is more accurate.
Garbage lies on behalf of Zionists. Tracey is serial fabulist intent on vilifying the girls involved in an effort to protect a cabal of blackmail, abuse and satanic ritual. Enjoy hell you fuckin prick.
So, basically you’re judging Michael based on a hoax that he unmasked because you’re stuck in a right-wing media bubble and refuse to grapple with the facts he’s presented. Or do you just #believeallwomen when it involves Jews?
Banks settled for millions because they couldn’t afford the pre trial discovery. Epstein victimized girls as young as 9 years old. If Jews find tropes inconvenient it would benefit them to stop exemplifying said tropes. Jews buy cbs and immediately blame Russian for Epstein criminal activity? Sounds like Jews have conceded Jeffery’s guilt. They are intentionally obfuscating Zionist involvement. Tracy is still trying to blame greedy sluts. Tracy tries to “fruit from the poison tree “ the entirety of criminal behavior by shining a light on Guifre . To defend Tracey is to defend the people who abused a fucking nine year old girl. Enjoy hell. You’ve earned it.
In a way I'm relieved to read that the numbers of abused are outrageously inflated. At the same time I am horrified that the public is treated so disrespectfully. I don't think I'll ever again believe a word out of any of their mouths! Thanks Michael. Kathryn from Brooklyn
Michael, can you please link me to the court documents where it specifically mentions the 14 year old from Florida lied about her age. That and the other prosecutors thinking it was too flimsy of a case to prosecute beyond the plea deal they eventually went for.
I listened to that painful 3 hour debate and having these documents would be helpful when debating others.
I'm still trying to find that stuff myself. Everything is scattered all over the Internet with numerous semi-duplicate copies in varying states of redaction.
At this point we are all Epstein victims . . . the true number is in the billions. I need to start thinking about what I'll spend my $16.23 settlement money on
How about a massage?
How about a magic trick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOVLojanC8&t=3s
I'm an Epstein survivor. That is to say, I survived listening to the splendiforous bullshit about Epstein. I feel like my mind has been "raped" by Epstein conspiracists.
now I know how Anouska feels
Nah, we're victims of the media.
Michael has done some excellent investigative journalism in the past but this is pure bullshit. The opposite of what he is saying is the real truth. The goverment, Kash Patel included, is doing everything it can to stifle evidence of Epstein's crimes. They drag their feet, they redact like crazy, they obfuscate, they lie. They keep suggesting there is nothing really there. Almost every national politician in both parties is doing everything he or she can to make this story go away. I even think Trump's hostile actions towards Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran are part of the distraction. WW3 may well happen as a result of trying to put a lid on the Epstein story. Millions may die to make this story go away.
Essentially nothing you wrote here is responsive to the actual content of this article.
You’ve clearly not paid any attention to this case in detail. The coverup is occurring for apparently the opposite reason--they don’t want to come right out and declare 90 percent of the conspiracy theories about Epstein false even though they should, so they weasel word their findings with massive deference to accusers and their lawyers, very few of whom had to prove anything in court.
Even if ony 10% of the accusations are true this is still the biggest political scandal in American history. And it involves prominant politicians in both parties. You accuse me of not paying attention in detail. I accuse you of the same. I also accuse Michael Tracey of the same. I have read dozens of shocking emails No grand jury would decline to indict. Yes, there is a coverup, but not a coverup of proof that everyone associate with Epstein was innocent. Quite the contrary. Victims deserve their day in court.
No it's not lmao. The 10 percent or so that IS true revolves around the Palm Beach scandal, involving no politicians, no Ghislaine Maxwell, no trafficking ring, no Prince Andrew. Interestingly enough most of you people have no clue about that, you know...the thing Epstein got arrested and jailed and got on the sex offender registry for??
IMAO = In my arrogant opinion. Emphasis on the word arrogant. You are no authority. You haven't read 1% of the relevant material. Neither have I, but I pay attention to people who have.
I suggest you start with the records with the State Attorney at Palm Beach and associated material.
You mean that sweetheart deal?
That seems pretty close to the truth.
That's your opinion.
It appears our government felt the need to weasel word their findings to placate millions of potentially dangerous idiots. And at this point I doubt the few pieces of "CSAM" they apparently did find is what most people think.
Michael if they would ever have the guts to award you a Pulitzer for your journalism on this , I would support it 💯
Thank you for bringing calm analysis to this topic.
I read through the FBI report and there's no doubt it debunks the claim of a massive child exploitation ring. ONLY Virginia Roberts made such claims and her claims were not substantiated by other alleged victims. Of course, those of us who had read the police interviews already knew this. As to the exaggeration of the number of victims, it has to be political. There were something like 30-40 payout under the victims restitution fund then about 150-200 from the funds lawyers bilked from the banks.
Does receiving a payout prove that someone was an actual victim? With that much money available, people were bound to take advantage of it.
Hang in there, Michael
Also remember what "CSAM" actually is. Its supposed to stand for "Child sexual abuse material". But remember this is just a different name for "Child pornography". And remember, the definition of "child" is anyone under the age of 18.
You can end up in a ridiculous situation where you live in a state where the age of consent is 16 and you have legal sex with your 16 year old girlfriend, but if you make a video of you having sex you are producing "Child sexual abuse material". Despite the material depicting legal sex!
Also I can go to Spain during the summer, and take a picture of topless women on the beach, if they happen to be 17 I am producing "Child sexual abuse material". Despite it only depicting a womans big breasts on the beach!
The term CSAM has no meaning, its ridiculous.
Keep up the good work. You are a modern-day Cassandra, cursed by the Gods to speak truths no one believes. It is accurate to state that so far, there is no chargeable evidence against any living person for being part of an Epstein pedo sex ring. But that makes people angry because they just know that there is. But I have confidence in you that you will be the first to report it if any such evidence is found.
So the Epstein Files case is either the most horrific case of child sex trafficking in history, and involved rape, torture and multiple murders by some of the richest and most politically connected people on Earth, who are in the verge of getting away with it. Or it is a complete hoax that was ginned up by personal injury attorneys, their greedy clients and ambitious politicians to smear political enemies. Under the second scenario the only real victims are Jeffrey Epstein, who was either murdered of tricked into suicide, and Gislaine Maxwell who got 20 years in prison for doing absolutely nothing. Is there a third option? As it stands now I have absolutely no idea which version is more accurate.
It was ginned up by personal injury attorneys and the media.
Garbage lies on behalf of Zionists. Tracey is serial fabulist intent on vilifying the girls involved in an effort to protect a cabal of blackmail, abuse and satanic ritual. Enjoy hell you fuckin prick.
What has he ever fabulated?
So, basically you’re judging Michael based on a hoax that he unmasked because you’re stuck in a right-wing media bubble and refuse to grapple with the facts he’s presented. Or do you just #believeallwomen when it involves Jews?
Banks settled for millions because they couldn’t afford the pre trial discovery. Epstein victimized girls as young as 9 years old. If Jews find tropes inconvenient it would benefit them to stop exemplifying said tropes. Jews buy cbs and immediately blame Russian for Epstein criminal activity? Sounds like Jews have conceded Jeffery’s guilt. They are intentionally obfuscating Zionist involvement. Tracy is still trying to blame greedy sluts. Tracy tries to “fruit from the poison tree “ the entirety of criminal behavior by shining a light on Guifre . To defend Tracey is to defend the people who abused a fucking nine year old girl. Enjoy hell. You’ve earned it.
All these hoaxes are DARPA experiments in mass psychology, cult behavior.
They wanna teach The Ai Machine to recognize when the people infected with mindviruses.
Continued, and very welcome ongoing prosecution of this increasingly hideous saga. Kudos to you, MT.
I'm so over the titillating sexual aspect of the Epstein circus.
What I find more interesting is the glimpse into the networking of the rich, famous, and powerful.
In a way I'm relieved to read that the numbers of abused are outrageously inflated. At the same time I am horrified that the public is treated so disrespectfully. I don't think I'll ever again believe a word out of any of their mouths! Thanks Michael. Kathryn from Brooklyn
Michael, can you please link me to the court documents where it specifically mentions the 14 year old from Florida lied about her age. That and the other prosecutors thinking it was too flimsy of a case to prosecute beyond the plea deal they eventually went for.
I listened to that painful 3 hour debate and having these documents would be helpful when debating others.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24785612-epstein-transcripts/
It's at around page 34 in that PDF (which will say it's "page 16" as there are multiple documents in that PDF).
Thank you.
What about the emails about the other prosecutors not thinking it was a good case to prosecute?
I'm still trying to find that stuff myself. Everything is scattered all over the Internet with numerous semi-duplicate copies in varying states of redaction.