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Random's avatar

dood, if you tomahawked 170 girls to death, the fact that you might not also be a rapist is IRRELEVANT

Rose's avatar

Mmm have you talked to many feminists lately? They would vigorously dispute this 😴

The Other Jackie's avatar

Like that is everything. Obviously the 35,000 or so Iranians including little girls and boys, actual toddlers, and teenagers, and grandmothers and grandfathers, and moms and dads, shot dead in January by the Regime with military style weapons for the crime of attending peaceful protests, pales against the bombing of an IRGC compound that turned out to include a nearby girls' school. First, we still don't know what exactly happened but yay, it gives the Free Palestine people and the everything is about Epstein people something to bring up constantly to distract from what is being discussed.

Alison Cipriani's avatar

You mean everything is about the Jews. Let's stop being coy. That's exactly what Tracey is complaining about because his jealousy of Jews goes back to his childhood.

Airlane1979's avatar

No one need support the reactionary, theocratic and extremely repressive government of Iran to realise that the number you state is the one being peddled by CIA funded Iran groups in Washington, DC.

Excusing a missile attack on a school as a mistake is a mark of an apologist for the crimes of US imperialism.

Random's avatar

I don't care what Iranians do with other Iranians, nibba

Henry Miller's avatar

Could be wrong, but in the long run promoting a loony "Operation Epstein Fury" theory will eventually become a propaganda victory for Israel.

Similar dynamic occurred with Trump's popularity. The press falsely accused him for years of colluding with Russia and of being Putin's lackey, took virtually all of Trump's comments out of context, and encouraged the lawfare engaged against Trump in the leadup to 2024. In the short run, he lost the 2020 election, but in the long run he rebounded!

The media could've made reality-based-arguments against Trump, but instead they chose to write novels.

Similarly, the media ("independent" and mainstream) could make strong reality-based-arguments against the US's and Israel's aggressive wars, but instead we choose to write novels.

Prepare for public opinion blowback in favor of US and Israeli foreign policy.

Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Absolutely BRILLIANT and spot on as usual Michael. Very refreshing to read your articles. The absurd notion that after MILLIONS of Epstein files showing nothing, releasing millions more might show something LOL.

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There are countless instances of DOJ released files that make it impossible to deny Epstein was working in Israeli diplomacy. Not necessarily intelligence, but diplomacy. I’m not sure why you view this as incompatible to your other arguments about the nature of the moral panic around Epstein- if anything it provides a reason for people to fabricate things about him. But there are multiple files where he was not only communicating on behalf of Israel, but competing on behalf of their interest.

Are you suggesting people are mistaken to think that Israeli Diplomacy was implicated in the beginning of this war? Because even Netanyahu doesn’t agree with you on that…

This war started with a ramadan ambush, after sham negotiations between the Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff and Iran. Is it reductive to say “Operation Epstein?” Absolutely… But people have no power to change outcomes here. It’s not some surprise that the term “Operation Epstein” was born with ease. It’s also not inherently a statement about pedophilia, though I agree with you that for some it may be.

Sam's avatar

It is incompatible with other rational arguments because the only reason conspiratards want to make that connection is that they can then say “they” using Jeffrey were secretly recording powerful people in compromising positions (sexually) and then blackmailing them to pursue their interests. There has been no credible evidence to support this claim. People married to this theory are part of this new cult who don’t want to admit they are in a cult.

Joesph J Esposito's avatar

AGREED. And the absurd moral panic over pedophilia is also a cult especially after millions of emails/files there's been zero proof of such claims, on the contrary just desperate attempts to scapegoat high profile MEN who were promiscuous.

Rose's avatar

I saw Whitney Webb speaking for the first time a couple of months ago. Could not believe the number of views/ likes. Also couldn't pin down what her core theory actually was, due to sufficiently vauge language 'they' etc. It was like waiting for a huge balloon to burst.

Maybe neoliberal economies/governance produce individual level analysis. Eg the oft cited "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime". This obliterates the need to think about systems level failures, social inequality, gender inequality, racial etc. Everything boils down to moral failure. As Michael's previously said good/ bad, right/ wrong. Fairytales about knights in shining armour & evil stepmothers.

Feminist friends won't let me say the word Trump in their house. Why? Cause " he's a rapist" LOL. They're good people but don't enjoy thinking- too much hard work. Lol I can't help it, it doesn't stop even, during sleep. Still don't have " the" answers.

I'm prone to meta questions. Why is sex the vehicle of choice for taking down political oppents?

Ali Larijani was making fun of us. Good sense of humour.

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3hEdited

Lol take it easy over there buddy. As an American citizen, I really only care about the US government. The US government released files which as you said, did not support a blackmail theory, but did show Epstein was working in Israeli diplomacy, in a similar way that Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff are working as diplomats for the US. You can call people retarded, and people are free to reflect on the personal rage boiling within on this issue… lol

Sam's avatar

Okay let’s say he was an Israeli diplomat for the sake of argument. So what? What’s next? Give a clear hypothesis on why you think this is all relevant to Tump and Iran.

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Because Israel pushed for this war. Netanyahu decided this debate when he bragged about the start of this war and said he has been pushing for it for 40 years. Even worse for the people in denial about this, he said clearly he wanted this to happen with the United States. If you think Trump wanted this war on his own, at this point you’re the “conspiratard” making up counterfactuals to cope with the word of official Israeli institutions.

Trump spent his whole campaign preaching a scrappy right wing anti war populism and telling people to pursue their American Dream and he will look out far them. That’s what people meant when they say Trump won on the economy. You do not need to study economics to know that this war has started destroying the economy. This war is a fuck you to any American who just started a business, something he explicitly encouraged people to do.

Trump’s whole presidency has been a fuck you to Americans. The war in Iran has been the biggest and most belligerent bird unleashed upon us so far. If you can’t see this war is for Israel, there’s probably nothing I can say to you now…

Sam's avatar

Does it occur to you that US may have *oil* shared *oil* interests *oil* along with Israelis? Of course Israel wants this. That does not mean it is not in America’s interests to stop China from getting this oil and securing it for ourselves like Trump he did with Venezuela. Trump has been consistent on this topic since the 80s. That’s what’s going on, not Epstein. Any podcast that sold you on the anti-war narrative, make sure to treat them using the same standards you applied for CNN during their pandemic coverage. They are the ones you should be really mad at other than at yourself for being this gullible.

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The fact that you argue by assigning assumptions about me is so discrediting. “Oil” and the reaction you suspect I had to CNN in the Pandemic? Is this really your best response to my arguement?

If so, you are not a serious person lol. You’ve already told yourself you know what I think, and you’ve told yourself I’m naive.

You’re arguing with netanyahu here, that’s where I got my views on this from, as he clearly stated starting this war has been his goal. You know, the prime minister of Israel…

Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Has NOTHING to do with the pedophilia HOAX. Throwing false accusations at someone to get him for something unrelated to those accusations is an assault on our due process rights