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Thunder Road's avatar

You have constructed a straw man here Michael. You can't just say "He has some mainstream views, is supported by some big money people, and it was only Alvin Bragg who got him convicted. Therefore, there is no establishment that's going after him because they fear him, you conspiracy minded rubes." I guess if your only point is that the conviction on its own does not make him an enemy of the establishment, then fine. But that's not much of a point. Who exactly on the planet did not think such and then changed their mind simply because of the conviction? No one. 0 people. You've spent a lot of effort to argue that zero people are wrong, if that's what you're doing here.

If you want to make an actual point and argue that there is no "establishment" (a term which you yourself use; despite the scare quotes, you still used it in this very article.) then please provide better vocabulary for the decidedly different treatment he has received from the very highest powers since at least 2016. (You have noticed it, right?) Because a vocabulary of some sort is needed here. Whuddya got?

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Michael Tracey's avatar

Did you read the concluding paragraph? "Yes, Trump is still despised by numerous factions of “establishment” power, including: the Democratic Party, much of the media, various liberal-oriented cultural institutions, the non-profit scam sector, and more."

Newsflash: the same factions also opposed George W. Bush. The only "straw"-like argument being floated lately is that Trump somehow can't represent one prong of an intra-"Establishment" conflict, as is the case with most US elections, with the *possible* exception of 2016. And yes, I use "Establishment" in scare quotes because I'm referring to the fallacious manner in which that term gets used and misused.

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Thunder Road's avatar

Oh, yes. Now I remember when the FBI raided Bush's house, how they charged him with 87 felonies, created deranged new legal theories to use against him, tried to remove him from the ballot in multiple states, tried to bankrupt him, illegally wiretapped him before he was even president, imprisoned as many of those even vaguely associated with him as they could round up, how the news media openly decided to abandon their principles in order to oppose his singular hitler-on-steroids level of menace, etc, etc. You're right. Trump, Bush, Romney, McCain. All basically the same. Of course, there are those ridiculous people who might point out that Bush, Romney, and McCain were not exactly in Trump's camp and who might even be deranged enough to assert that they are in fact part of the mythical "establishment" that opposes Trump, but whatever.

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Madjack's avatar

Trump has been strongly opposed and has had several criminal attempts to subvert/destroy him. He has and continues to prevail. I want peace in Europe(end the Ukraine slaughter) and I want Hamas eliminated. I want a secure border and deportation of illegals immigrants. No more wars. After Trump I want a new party: The Patriots Party. For America and Americans

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Jonathan T's avatar

Eliminating Hamas and no more wars are contradictory aims. Unless you mean, "No more wars except if Israel wants a war then we will pay for that and use our military as support and our leverage in the UN to shield them from any accusations of war crimes."

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BookWench's avatar

Agreed.

I don't get all this support for Israel. It's cult-like.

Hamas may never be eliminated. Were all Nazis eliminated? Of course not. We brought quite a few here to the US to run our space program. I'm tired of financing Israel's slaughter.

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BookWench's avatar

You are correct, & I'm saying this as a Trump supporter. I voted for him twice, & will vote for him again, but I am not a Trump cultist. It seems like every couple of weeks or so, I'm shaking my head over some new goofball thing he's said or done. Unfortunately, he's still the best choice, as far as I'm concerned. The best we can hope for at this point -- IF Trump is actually allowed to finish his campaign, IF he is actually permitted to win, & IF his win is duly certified by feckless weeny or corrupt Congress Critters -- is to slow the roll of the warmongering globalists. Maybe then we'll have a fighting chance at liberty. Also, as I watch my nation circle the drain, I can at least have a leader who loves the country, & is endlessly entertaining, rather than totally corrupt & inept.

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Jonathan T's avatar

Excellent analysis Michael, though I think it is fair to say that Trump at one time was deemed to be dangerous to the MIC and intelligence community interests. One only need look at the whole Russia-gate scandal to see that the Democrat-aligned-war-interests considered him a threat to our continued lucrative conflict with Russia. Yes, he did send weapons to Ukraine, but then he tried to lean on Zelenski for some dirt on Biden in the process. And one really has to wonder, would the Ukraine war have happened or have dragged on for so long if Trump was in office instead of Biden? My intuition tells me no.

Or one only has to look at some of the less reported aspects of the Jan 6. "insurrection" like the mysterious pipe-bombs, or the refusal of the FBI to declare the number of undercover informants they had on site, the mysterious unresponsiveness of national guard despite capitol police calling for their involvement, to see that domestic intelligence interests, democratic lawmakers and a compliant media were clearly setting him up to fall hard towards the end of this first presidency.

However I don't think Trump is purely anti-establishment, he clearly knows how to bend to powerful interests, he is after-all, the man who claims to know the "Art of the Deal." But he remains a bit of a loose cannon, and I think that's what scares the "establishment" forces the most. He will continue the US occupation of Syria, but then say in public "yeah, we are there for the oil." He will have meetings with our avowed enemy North Korea. He will openly criticize NATO. And as small as these things are to the continued operation of the war machine, they represent a bit of sand in the gears as opposed to the high-grade war-machine oil that is our current President.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

An OUTSTANDING analysis -- well researched and supported by facts. Thank you for your invaluable and timely efforts.

In summary -- Biden or Trump == are SAME in all essentials. With Biden cabal, as astute Putin stated, being more predictable.

So -- for whom to vote -- Jill Stein or RFK, Jr. ? I know, I know -- RFK, Jr. and Gaza.... ;-((

The current system is completely rotten at all levels. - but firmly in grip of war Uniparty.

RFK Jr. , a Democrat outsider, looks like willing to attempt to blow-away the bipartisan war Uniparty.

Instead, it will highly likely blow him away...

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BookWench's avatar

Nah, Trump & Biden are NOT the "SAME in all essentials." Remember that Trump extricated us from the Paris Accords & made us energy independent. Trump did not have the border wide open, & he did not get us involved in a bunch of new wars. Trump has many flaws, but I never saw any indication that he was selling influence the way Joe Biden has been.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

They are both identical in War party policy, that is, foreign policy.

He also murdered Suleimani, a hero who defeated Al Qaeda and prevented Shiite's genocide in Syria.

Judge on creatures he selected -- Pence, Bolton, Pompeo, "his generals" (all betrayed him), Ben Carson, a grifter and Bible-idiot who believes that St. Joseph built pyramids to store wheat.... -- the list is endless

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Phil Lawroski's avatar

Ask yourself who most advances the causes of the global elite, Trump or Biden ? Who most advances mass illegal immigration, censorship, lawless prosecutors, etc. Trump or Biden ? The choice is clear. I’ll side with the wealthy establishment that are against the Biden globalist agenda. The cases against Trump are obvious frame-ups and everyone knows it but that doesn’t change anything regarding the different agendas of the candidates.

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CarolDL's avatar

"Trump being a "convicted felon" does not magically make him a mortal enemy of the establishment" Well, of course not. Do fake lawfare trial convictions probably turned over on appeal really mean anything? Let's talk about the sleazy (establishment) congressional hush money slush fund. Or, I guess let's not.

This: It's hard to fathom a more consequential act of official deception in recent history given the enormity of the stakes. (Biden assured the public that US arms would never be authorized to strike inside Russia because this would be an unacceptably dangerous escalation, perhaps leading to World War III.) So President Biden lied to the US public. This seems important.

But Trump!! Insert weird progressive virtue signaling here and use quotes from the women on "The View." I don't like Trump, I didn't vote for trump, he's an ass hat, orange clown...but he is better at foreign policy than this not even slightly articulate administration. The rest of this piece is just biased, gratuitous gossip.

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peace warrior's avatar

Wasnt the 61 billion the amount that got him impeached when he didnt send it fast enough and had that perfect phone call?

I'm more worried about how things have changed this time around: trump is gettinga LOT more donations than last time. Some are even arms manufacturers it appears. He may have been more quid pro quo proof last time when no one donated to him because no one thought he was going to win.

This time he may be more compromised. Still - would he be more compromised than the mess we have now?

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David Sterry's avatar

He's back! In 2016 Trump was sent in to drain the swamp. He tried to fight clean and his principles got in the way but ever since January 7th, 2021 **play Rocky 4 style seque** he's been training to take back America! MAGA 2. Coming this fall.

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Craig Healy's avatar

Preach.

Keep banging the drum.

Good seeing you in Rutherford again.

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