“Virginia Roberts Giuffre is an American hero,” proclaimed Bradley Edwards, the pioneering Florida plaintiff’s attorney, who has made a career out of representing every “victim” of Jeffrey Epstein he can possibly manifest, by suing every individual or entity he can possibly identify.
I’m in London right now and it’s wild what a big story this is. The drive to get Andrew out of public life had seemingly been slowing down a bit, but news of this forthcoming book seems to have really pressed down on the gas pedal, with the King, parliament, and the tabloid press all in an arms race to see who can reject him harder and faster. The news is he could be stripped of even his “Prince” title, which I believe last happened to a prince who sided with the Germans during world war 1.
The UK media is going absolutely berserk! And Prince Andrew has no real defenders, because no one seems to have bothered to look into the substance of the allegations or the credibility of the accuser -- the coverage all presumes it 100% true, and as a devastating blow to the Royal Family on a PR level. I've been meaning to write something more comprehensive about the Prince Andrew angle of all this...
I was not ever a fan of Prince Andrew but if a Prince life can be totally obliterated and cancelled on unproven allegations by a fabricator who became an alleged to be real super victim of the Epstein saga. Yet none of allegations were ever proven true and she wasn’t even called to Ghislaine trial but her damage to both Ghislaine and Prince Andrew is enormous .
That separately also led to the destruction of Ghislaine whole life for events some 20 years prior where she was targeted by indictment only after Epstein death using info from the Virginia civil court case as a road map to charge her which was contrary to public expectation was a weak case against her and yet highly prejudicial as loud noisy high profile media accusers like Sarah Ransome and Virginia and Maria Farmer among others conflated and tainted into her trial - where even the two other witness alleged victims called Annie and Kate ( Anouska ) were also declared by the court as conduct NOT illegal for the purposes as
of convicting Maxwell - which begs the question they should not have been allowed to be included as it only conflated and tainted and prejudiced guilt for the inconsistent testimony provided by Jane and Carolyn related counts eg Jane previously told FBI she couldn’t recall if Maxwell was present or when ) in which Carolyn added on in a superceding indictment ) a schizophrenic ( the sole witness to the sex trafficking enabling charge for Maxwell -that gave Maxwell a concurrent 20 year sentence for that alone ) never previously mentioned Ghislaine in 2005 - 2007 police reports but Sarah and Virginia who at 18 or 19 recruited Carolyn for money (independently of anyone) and for Epstein without any coercion from anyone and it was Virgina that told Carolyn to tell Epstein she was 18 - Carlyon stated she was big breasted and could have passed for 21 at the time ). It was inconsistent and unreliable shaky conviction and unjust for Maxwell to be given 20 years for that. Further absurdly Virginia and others not called were allowed to pile on their unproven victims impact statements
Great stuff! BBC going bonkers over here and a leading criminal barrister Helena Kennedy suggested he should flee to Switzerland or somewhere (North Korea?) because 'other women' are coming forward and he can be criminally prosecuted in the UK for things allegedly committed in the USA and elsewhere abroad (no limitation period here). BBC Radio4 Today programme 2.24 in https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002l34d It's literally insane. But that's the UK today.
I've long had grave doubts about VRG's credibility and find the credulity of most media types when it comes to her very disturbing, especially as she had admitted pushing fictions about certain people and as a result doing great damage to them. I'm looking forward to reading what you come up with here, MT. Thanks for undertaking this inquiry, especially given the heat that any accompanies any questioning of VRG.
It's incredible what you uncover with the slightest actual investigation. If there's any still sealed "Epstein file" I'm looking forward to reading it's the deposition of Sharon Churcher.
Random question, but do you think the Jeffrey Epstein saga involved young women being used to lure wealthy men for potential blackmail, or do you believe the claims made by Virginia and others are completely false?
My understanding - and from what I've read on source documents out there - is that only two people have said that they had sexual activity with someone other than Epstein: Virginia Giuffre & Sarah Ransome. And Sarah Ransome - as Michael Tracey has pointed out - walked back her claims. Leaving Giuffre the only one making these types of claims to date.
Even Giuffre's claims of being filmed were made up: Palm Beach police said there were only 2 security cameras in the house:
"THE WITNESS: He did have two cameras, two covert hidden cameras inside
his house for security purposes. We did locate that computer.
I reviewed the images in the computer, and within that computer there are photographs of girls that I had previous interviewed that appears to be them.
However, because it's so grainy, so snowy, a positive rec -- a positive identification is -- you know, it's hard to -- unless you show it to the girl, is this you?"
You clearly know this topic well, and I’m genuinely interested in your take. It’s a tale as old as time, powerful men exploiting young women. If that wasn’t what was really happening, then what was going on with Epstein? And why is the government so determined to keep all the details from being released?
So I'm going to go out on a limb here and forecast that within 72 hours Jessica Kraus is going to come out with bombshell revelations that VRG's terrible car-bus collision last spring, that landed her in the hospital in critical condition, could have been a hoax! Michael you might want to watermark those police images, I'm just sayin'.
I'm more intrigued by the blurriness around her (maybe) death. Australians have death certificates, right? We're not entitled to details but time and place should be public record. And #TeamNoOne here but how does the recent drip, drip, drip of actual evidence being leaked align with VRG's allegations?
The way to handle JRK is to use her platform to Michael's advantage. What he should be doing is seeing if she would be willing to cross post a writing of his on the Giuffre subject since she shares the criticism. That way, she's not plagiarizing and Michael is reaching a greater audience.
* Virginia and her book . Another scam. They say this is different and it is supposed to be truthful now in contrast to her previous first unpublished but leaked memoirs billionaire playboy club . Fulll of fabricated stories. And the sheep pubic media seem to fall for it yet again without any scrutiny so far .
It's nice to get the photographic evidence in case people discount the bus driver's story. I think those that read the bus driver's story or saw how ludicrous her Instagram post was are a bit more suspect of Giuffre's stories, but most of the public take them at face value without any critical thinking. I think the assumption is that the media have verified them, when upon closer examination, they clearly haven't.
There just honestly needs to be more pushback agains the media for not examining Giuffre's claims. If someone like me, who's just a commenter, can unearth doscuments like the following, disputing Giuffre's claims, why can't they?
"January 1998 – In contradiction to Plaintiff’s sworn testimony that she ran away from home at the age of 13, lived on the street for “months” without word from her family, and ultimately was rescued by the FBI in a SWAT raid from the clutches of a sexual predator named Ron Eppinger, the police documented a call from Plaintiff’s mom that she ran away from home due to her recent “attitude change,” “drug use” and “possible cult activities,” was found four days later by her brother and returned to her family who had decided to involuntarily place her in a drug rehabilitation facility. Menninger Decl., Ex. B (GM00750-00754, 00783-00785). No reference to Ron Eppinger, an FBI SWAT raid, or months without family contact are reflected in the reports."
I've requested them on his behalf, I was also the one who got the bus crash documents. My request for the suicide documents was denied and the appeal I filed was denied this morning.
Australia isn't like America where it's easy to get documents from courts and police.
In Western Australia (and in every other state and territory, as well as the federal level for that matter), there's very strict laws surrounding the disclosure of personal information through FOI requests, even for the deceased. Usually an exemption will only ever be made so long as releasing that personal information will reveal a matter in the public interest which relates to the governance of WA.
I'm also completely at the mercy of the Principal Registrar of the Supreme Court of WA when it comes to getting a copy of the probate application. I just have to hope that he (or she, I'm not too sure) finds the reasons I want a copy of it compelling enough. The registrar has the sole discretion in this matter.
Thank you for that detailed, albeit frustrating, information.
I just went to the Inquest Findings page of the Coroner’s Court of Western Australia, and it’s acting quite strangely on my iPhone: the case names display for an instant, and then vanish. What’s up with that?
It's a shit website, I'd recommend using it on a proper computer with a proper browser. That being said, it's still more functional than most other court websites I've used. :P
I read a short excerpt of Virginia's book, in which she detailed her abuse at the hands of Ehud Barak. I came away wondering why she would have stayed around Epstein and Maxwell, if she was expected to be subjected to such heinous abuse? I don't want to sound callous, but she does have a history of making stuff up. It is reasonable to ask questions here.
Were these girls being held against their will, forced to engage in sex acts with disgusting old rich men? If Prince Andrew was in the habit of raping her, then why would she continue to hang out with him?
There are a lot of things about this Epstein story that just don't make any sense to me.
You people are literally sliming a victim of child trafficking to defined an evil Jew pedophile child trafficker Mossad agent who uses pedophilia to bribe our entire government. This sort of thing is why we hate you Jews.
I'm not even Jewish, so I'm not sure what you're point is other than proving that you are not familiar with the facts about Virginia Giuffre. You come across as a bit looney.
Also, you're using the term "pedophile" incorrectly as none of the people here were accused or convicted of pedophilia, which is sex or sexual abuse of pre-pubescent children.
It appears you could use classes in English since it's clearly not your first language.
I believe they admitted that the manuscript was fiction in 2017. Of course that document remained sealed for two and a half years before being released just before Epstein's death. Just a nitpick.
It was admitted to be fiction during the Giuffre v Maxwell defamation suit. I think the document wasn’t unsealed until later, though. Perhaps the unsealing occurred in 2019?
She now accuses her father for the first time apparently of sexually abusing her at around 10 yo - double check . Which could be true or not. But her father has denied it . Which begs the question should any of that family be believed in corroborating anything they said in her story of Ghislaine or Epstein saga . Her siblings are grifters now accusing Virgina husband of bashing her - which may be partly true and in part exaggerated. Her husband has denied it
Very interesting, this is what actual investigative journalism looks like. Thank you for going wherever the story leads.
I’m in London right now and it’s wild what a big story this is. The drive to get Andrew out of public life had seemingly been slowing down a bit, but news of this forthcoming book seems to have really pressed down on the gas pedal, with the King, parliament, and the tabloid press all in an arms race to see who can reject him harder and faster. The news is he could be stripped of even his “Prince” title, which I believe last happened to a prince who sided with the Germans during world war 1.
The UK media is going absolutely berserk! And Prince Andrew has no real defenders, because no one seems to have bothered to look into the substance of the allegations or the credibility of the accuser -- the coverage all presumes it 100% true, and as a devastating blow to the Royal Family on a PR level. I've been meaning to write something more comprehensive about the Prince Andrew angle of all this...
I was not ever a fan of Prince Andrew but if a Prince life can be totally obliterated and cancelled on unproven allegations by a fabricator who became an alleged to be real super victim of the Epstein saga. Yet none of allegations were ever proven true and she wasn’t even called to Ghislaine trial but her damage to both Ghislaine and Prince Andrew is enormous .
That separately also led to the destruction of Ghislaine whole life for events some 20 years prior where she was targeted by indictment only after Epstein death using info from the Virginia civil court case as a road map to charge her which was contrary to public expectation was a weak case against her and yet highly prejudicial as loud noisy high profile media accusers like Sarah Ransome and Virginia and Maria Farmer among others conflated and tainted into her trial - where even the two other witness alleged victims called Annie and Kate ( Anouska ) were also declared by the court as conduct NOT illegal for the purposes as
of convicting Maxwell - which begs the question they should not have been allowed to be included as it only conflated and tainted and prejudiced guilt for the inconsistent testimony provided by Jane and Carolyn related counts eg Jane previously told FBI she couldn’t recall if Maxwell was present or when ) in which Carolyn added on in a superceding indictment ) a schizophrenic ( the sole witness to the sex trafficking enabling charge for Maxwell -that gave Maxwell a concurrent 20 year sentence for that alone ) never previously mentioned Ghislaine in 2005 - 2007 police reports but Sarah and Virginia who at 18 or 19 recruited Carolyn for money (independently of anyone) and for Epstein without any coercion from anyone and it was Virgina that told Carolyn to tell Epstein she was 18 - Carlyon stated she was big breasted and could have passed for 21 at the time ). It was inconsistent and unreliable shaky conviction and unjust for Maxwell to be given 20 years for that. Further absurdly Virginia and others not called were allowed to pile on their unproven victims impact statements
hopefully this will lead to the collapse of the monarchy and commonwealth so we can all be freed from the tyranny of His Majesty The King
Tyranny by the elect ain't much better, I assure you.
Spoken like a true American.
Wait, is this sarcasm?
Forgive my provincial American ignorance, but isn't the role of the king limited to stuff like ribboncutting these days?
There's coups (https://johnmenadue.com/post/2022/11/the-queens-coup-and-the-role-of-king-prince-charles/) and letting the Prime Minister do whatever he wants (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/16/scott-morrison-five-more-secret-ministries-minister-portfolio-ministry-including-treasury-home-affairs)
Spoken like a true American.
Maybe Andrew should consider meeting up with Steve Bannon.
Thanks Michael - appreciate your continuing exposure of this scam.
Great stuff! BBC going bonkers over here and a leading criminal barrister Helena Kennedy suggested he should flee to Switzerland or somewhere (North Korea?) because 'other women' are coming forward and he can be criminally prosecuted in the UK for things allegedly committed in the USA and elsewhere abroad (no limitation period here). BBC Radio4 Today programme 2.24 in https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002l34d It's literally insane. But that's the UK today.
I've long had grave doubts about VRG's credibility and find the credulity of most media types when it comes to her very disturbing, especially as she had admitted pushing fictions about certain people and as a result doing great damage to them. I'm looking forward to reading what you come up with here, MT. Thanks for undertaking this inquiry, especially given the heat that any accompanies any questioning of VRG.
It's incredible what you uncover with the slightest actual investigation. If there's any still sealed "Epstein file" I'm looking forward to reading it's the deposition of Sharon Churcher.
Same! I really would like to see what she said under oath!
Random question, but do you think the Jeffrey Epstein saga involved young women being used to lure wealthy men for potential blackmail, or do you believe the claims made by Virginia and others are completely false?
My understanding - and from what I've read on source documents out there - is that only two people have said that they had sexual activity with someone other than Epstein: Virginia Giuffre & Sarah Ransome. And Sarah Ransome - as Michael Tracey has pointed out - walked back her claims. Leaving Giuffre the only one making these types of claims to date.
Even Giuffre's claims of being filmed were made up: Palm Beach police said there were only 2 security cameras in the house:
"THE WITNESS: He did have two cameras, two covert hidden cameras inside
his house for security purposes. We did locate that computer.
I reviewed the images in the computer, and within that computer there are photographs of girls that I had previous interviewed that appears to be them.
However, because it's so grainy, so snowy, a positive rec -- a positive identification is -- you know, it's hard to -- unless you show it to the girl, is this you?"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24797935-2006-jeffrey-epstein-grand-jury/
You clearly know this topic well, and I’m genuinely interested in your take. It’s a tale as old as time, powerful men exploiting young women. If that wasn’t what was really happening, then what was going on with Epstein? And why is the government so determined to keep all the details from being released?
So I'm going to go out on a limb here and forecast that within 72 hours Jessica Kraus is going to come out with bombshell revelations that VRG's terrible car-bus collision last spring, that landed her in the hospital in critical condition, could have been a hoax! Michael you might want to watermark those police images, I'm just sayin'.
I'm more intrigued by the blurriness around her (maybe) death. Australians have death certificates, right? We're not entitled to details but time and place should be public record. And #TeamNoOne here but how does the recent drip, drip, drip of actual evidence being leaked align with VRG's allegations?
The way to handle JRK is to use her platform to Michael's advantage. What he should be doing is seeing if she would be willing to cross post a writing of his on the Giuffre subject since she shares the criticism. That way, she's not plagiarizing and Michael is reaching a greater audience.
* Virginia and her book . Another scam. They say this is different and it is supposed to be truthful now in contrast to her previous first unpublished but leaked memoirs billionaire playboy club . Fulll of fabricated stories. And the sheep pubic media seem to fall for it yet again without any scrutiny so far .
It's nice to get the photographic evidence in case people discount the bus driver's story. I think those that read the bus driver's story or saw how ludicrous her Instagram post was are a bit more suspect of Giuffre's stories, but most of the public take them at face value without any critical thinking. I think the assumption is that the media have verified them, when upon closer examination, they clearly haven't.
There just honestly needs to be more pushback agains the media for not examining Giuffre's claims. If someone like me, who's just a commenter, can unearth doscuments like the following, disputing Giuffre's claims, why can't they?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1328.20.pdf
"January 1998 – In contradiction to Plaintiff’s sworn testimony that she ran away from home at the age of 13, lived on the street for “months” without word from her family, and ultimately was rescued by the FBI in a SWAT raid from the clutches of a sexual predator named Ron Eppinger, the police documented a call from Plaintiff’s mom that she ran away from home due to her recent “attitude change,” “drug use” and “possible cult activities,” was found four days later by her brother and returned to her family who had decided to involuntarily place her in a drug rehabilitation facility. Menninger Decl., Ex. B (GM00750-00754, 00783-00785). No reference to Ron Eppinger, an FBI SWAT raid, or months without family contact are reflected in the reports."
There must be police and coroner’s reports about the suicide. Hopefully Michael has requested them …
I've requested them on his behalf, I was also the one who got the bus crash documents. My request for the suicide documents was denied and the appeal I filed was denied this morning.
Australia isn't like America where it's easy to get documents from courts and police.
In Western Australia (and in every other state and territory, as well as the federal level for that matter), there's very strict laws surrounding the disclosure of personal information through FOI requests, even for the deceased. Usually an exemption will only ever be made so long as releasing that personal information will reveal a matter in the public interest which relates to the governance of WA.
I'm also completely at the mercy of the Principal Registrar of the Supreme Court of WA when it comes to getting a copy of the probate application. I just have to hope that he (or she, I'm not too sure) finds the reasons I want a copy of it compelling enough. The registrar has the sole discretion in this matter.
FYI I added a credit to Will at the bottom of this article (sorry I initially forgot)
Thank you for that detailed, albeit frustrating, information.
I just went to the Inquest Findings page of the Coroner’s Court of Western Australia, and it’s acting quite strangely on my iPhone: the case names display for an instant, and then vanish. What’s up with that?
It's a shit website, I'd recommend using it on a proper computer with a proper browser. That being said, it's still more functional than most other court websites I've used. :P
I read a short excerpt of Virginia's book, in which she detailed her abuse at the hands of Ehud Barak. I came away wondering why she would have stayed around Epstein and Maxwell, if she was expected to be subjected to such heinous abuse? I don't want to sound callous, but she does have a history of making stuff up. It is reasonable to ask questions here.
Were these girls being held against their will, forced to engage in sex acts with disgusting old rich men? If Prince Andrew was in the habit of raping her, then why would she continue to hang out with him?
There are a lot of things about this Epstein story that just don't make any sense to me.
Great piece, what a POS!
Attacking the victim again you horrible slimy Jew?
Pointing out where Virginia Giuffre has lied isn't attacking a victim. It's called reporting facts and is something all reporters should be doing.
I take it, you're not aware that Giuffre also lied to the FBI in her 2011 interview with them, either.
You people are literally sliming a victim of child trafficking to defined an evil Jew pedophile child trafficker Mossad agent who uses pedophilia to bribe our entire government. This sort of thing is why we hate you Jews.
I'm not even Jewish, so I'm not sure what you're point is other than proving that you are not familiar with the facts about Virginia Giuffre. You come across as a bit looney.
Jew tool, Jew same difference pedophile apologist, hanging is too good for your ilk.
Huh? What does that ("jew tool") even mean?
Also, you're using the term "pedophile" incorrectly as none of the people here were accused or convicted of pedophilia, which is sex or sexual abuse of pre-pubescent children.
It appears you could use classes in English since it's clearly not your first language.
Yes child sexual abuse took place on Epstein island Jew tool. The fact you people lie about that ought to be a death penalty level offense.
This sounds like trash to me. There are hundreds of girls who were sexually abused and trafficked in the same way as Virginia.
Really? Name one other woman who claims to have been trafficked to prominent people. She gets this scrutiny because she's made the wildest claims.
Hundreds? According to the DOJ OPR report only came up with about 30 (29, to be exact).
https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/1c1f6649-226e-4afa-953e-826dee8de3b5/note/49b577fa-6ad8-415d-8efc-c553423af314.
I believe they admitted that the manuscript was fiction in 2017. Of course that document remained sealed for two and a half years before being released just before Epstein's death. Just a nitpick.
It was admitted to be fiction during the Giuffre v Maxwell defamation suit. I think the document wasn’t unsealed until later, though. Perhaps the unsealing occurred in 2019?
Yes unsealed in that August 9 dump.
She now accuses her father for the first time apparently of sexually abusing her at around 10 yo - double check . Which could be true or not. But her father has denied it . Which begs the question should any of that family be believed in corroborating anything they said in her story of Ghislaine or Epstein saga . Her siblings are grifters now accusing Virgina husband of bashing her - which may be partly true and in part exaggerated. Her husband has denied it