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Gerda Ho's avatar

It is NOT antisemitism to call Israel a terrorist country,because that is exactly what it is!

As a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany whose many family members were murdered by the Nazis, I see Israel following in the same goose steps! Israel is happy to murder and stave to death all Gazans…they have no shame or compassion for any people ,be they women or children or other living things.They deliberately engage in these heinous crimes and boast about it.Just listen to the war criminals, Netanyahu, G’ Vir and Snotrich! All belong behind bars! Israel,has lost its right to exist.

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Mike's avatar

I call BS on your story.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

It doesn’t bother me a bit. If you excuse genocide and criminal leaders , that on you.

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George Shay's avatar

You are a Jew hating liar. There is no genocide against Gazans. This is a blood libel against the Jewish people. The opposite is true. Hamas aspires to genocide against Israel, which is why they must be eradicated from the face of the earth.

If you support Hamas, the blood of every casualty on both sides is on your hands too.

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barnabus's avatar

Gerda Ho just makes the mistake of trusting MSM. From her own posts, she mistrusts MSM on sexual policy (cis vs trans, polyamory). But she fails to see that if MSM is lying in one piece of politics, it may just as well be lying in another one ("Israel is committing genocide"). In fact, Israel is much much nicer to Gazans than Soviets were to Nazi Germans after the Soviets went on to win from 1944 on.

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Mike's avatar

You’re a German Hausfrau that wishes people Merry Christmas. You’re not Jewish. If you or your family had actually been in a concentration or death camp, you would have fled Germany. Instead you’re the last of the German people that supported Hitler.

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George Shay's avatar

You are the worst kind of “Jew”. A real kapo. Are you on Qatar’s payroll?

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Jim's avatar

Actually, Gerdo Ho is a good human. A mensch. You, if you support this genocide, are a psychopathic disgrace to the human race. If either of you are on a payroll, it's probably you.

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George Shay's avatar

Needless to say to anyone of goodwill and an IQ>50, I don't support genocide. That's why I’m a Zionist and hate the perpetrators of real genocide, which are in hierarchical order Russia, Iran, Hamas, and the rear of the “ring of fire”.

If you support them, you are in that org chart too, under the bottom rung of “Useful idiots, dupes, and lackeys”.

Being a Christian, rather than hating you as you hate me, I will pray for your redemption.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

Christianity is immoral, and the act of praying within the framework of Christian theology for a person's redemption is itself an expression of hatred wrapped in a cloak of goodwill. Anyone with an iq over 50 can see that when they open their eyes.

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BookWench's avatar

Please point out where Jim said that he hated you.

It is possible to disagree with people on any number of issues without hating them.

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Sera's avatar

But…it’s really not possible to be a Zionist and not support genocide. Not anymore, and the entire world is expressing its understanding of that fact.

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George Shay's avatar

Do you hate me?

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Relay's avatar

Everybody hates you, Nazi filth. You will burn in hell, Nazi Jew.

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BookWench's avatar

I don’t hate anyone, George.

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barnabus's avatar

There is no genocide from the Israeli side. Gazans are part of the Muslim world and this hasn't lost a third of its people since 2023. If you are looking for a comparison, Israelis are much nicer to Gazans than Soviets were to Nazi Germans after 1943.

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Jim's avatar

Sorry, but at this point you are either a committed liar, or totally deluded. This is a livestreamed genocide. Israel has dropped more than Hiroshima levels of explosives on Gaza. Almost all the buildings have been destroyed. Food is in short supply, but Israel's openly expressed policy. Health care is in shambles, and Israel has destroyed most of the hospitals, and targeted the medical staff. We're not talking about "the Muslim World," we're talking about the population of Gaza, a small area five miles wide by twenty five miles long that was populated by 2 million or so people before Israel began industrial scale slaughter.. Stop pulling nonsense comparisons out of your ass.

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barnabus's avatar

You are a liar. Compared to the bombs dropped on Hamburg in 1943 or on Dresden in 1945, real civilian lives have been lost at at most 2:1 ratio to combatants. That's a real war with kid gloves on. Because everyone absolutely loves Fakestinians (because they murder Jews).

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Jim's avatar

Are there no depths to which you will not stoop? The ratio of civilian deaths to combatants is orders of magnitude beyond 2:1

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BookWench's avatar

Qatar.

Bwahahahahahahaa!

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

Sounds like they are more likely the best kind of Jew. It would still be honorable for them to leave the cult and stop identifying as a Jew though.

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George Shay's avatar

Gee, that’s not too anti-Semitic.

Do you support Hamas?

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BookWench's avatar

You really need to work on your retorts, George.

All you seem to have is "antisemite," "Qatar payroll," and "Hamas supporter."

We're all just rolling our eyes at your pathetic attempts, but do go on.

Judging from my own previous interactions with Zionists, I'm sure "Nazi cunt" and "blood libel" can't be far behind.

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George Shay's avatar

You really need to work on your heart, mind and soul. I will pray for your enlightenment.

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BookWench's avatar

You do that, George.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

And I do not support Hamas. Hamas is responsible for providing false pretext for the ongoing genocide of Gaza by Israel. And they seek to create an Islamic Supremacist state which I think is immoral.

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George Shay's avatar

You do you support Hamas, though apparently you don't know it.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

No, but you apparently don't know how much of an idiot you are.

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BookWench's avatar

Oh, here we go. . .

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

It's absolutely not anti-Semitic. I don't believe Jews are a race, aka "semites." It sounds like you do though. What i said is the opposite of Antisemitism, as it contends Jews cannot leave the cult of Israel because a person is a Jew by ancestry. I am saying they can renounce and it is honorable to do so, and im also suggesting that a person cannot be identified as a Jew based in their ancestry. How about you George--do you believe Jews are a race or "ethnic group"; do you think a person is a Jew based on their ancestry?

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George Shay's avatar

You're deluding yourself and playing semantic games like most sophists. I will pray for you.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

No, you are actually playing semantic games and deluding yourself. Antisemitism was explicitly defined and demonstrated by Antisemites as racism towards Jews as a conceived race and not antipathy based on religion. This is a historical fact. It is actually Zionist sophistry that has attempted to redefine Antisemitism to their political and religious liking.

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the Ghost Of Josey Wales's avatar

How old are you? 117? Or just another LARPing “holocaust survivor.” I’m an Israel skeptic but find the Holocaust emotional extortion absolutely exhausting. You have no claim to any moral high ground and we all can do basic math. My family died fighting Nazis - so what? People like you aren’t grateful and think you have some superior claim to context despite being about 2 months old at most when you fled Nazi germany.

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George Shay's avatar

You are the worst kind of Jew, a real Kapo, suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Don't you see that this is the 1930s in Nazi Germany all over again and that Israel is the victim? It’s open season on Jews-in D.C. in the US, in Manchester in the UK?

You are an “as a Jew”. I am encouraging my Jewish friends to make Aliyah ASAP.

Maybe it takes a gwbtile Zioniat to know which way the wind blows, but heed my warning lest you suffer the fate of your ancestors.

The Democrats are the most anti-semitic political party since the Nazis. They are not your friends.

You've been warned. That's all I can do. Now your fate is in G-d’a hands.

Please don't communicate with me again. I have nothing else to say to you. Reply and you'll be muted.

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George Shay's avatar

Israel is the antithesis of terrorism and genocide. They are the victims thereof. You are a Hamas propagandist, keyboard warrior. The blood of Jews is on your keyboard and you’ll never be able to wash it off.

I will pray for your redemption.

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The End(s) of Education's avatar

This comments section makes me sad.

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forumposter123@protonmail.com's avatar

Selling out your own people for yourself, pathetic.

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George Shay's avatar

Fortunately, I bask in the light of the Lord. Every comment you make heralds the sad news that you are so far into darkness that you can't even see it anymore.

The truth shall set you free, but now you are enslaved by the lies of evil incarnate—Russia, Iran, Qatar, Hamas, and the rear of the “ring of fire”. Their goal is the genocide of the Jewish people, and that's just for starters.

You, a keyboard warrior, are part of this evil cabal. There is blood on your keyboard that you'll never be able to wash away, unless and until you see the light and repent the error of your ways.

It took me seventy years, but the Lord does not mark the time. I will pray for your redemption.

You will continue to hate me and millions of others, because hate is all you have. You're addicted to it. No doubt you will prove it with your next reply.

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Relay's avatar

Adolph put a bullet in his head, and soon you will too, Nazi subhuman.

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George Shay's avatar

Oh, you're a real hater to the extent that you’re reported!

Hope you've enjoyed your time on Substack. It is about to come to an end.

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Bryan Steele's avatar

It sounds like you think you know the mind of God. Don't you think that's more than a bit arrogant?

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George Shay's avatar

I am not arrogant enough to even contemplate the notion that I “know” the “mind” of God, whereas you seem to possess the hubris to think that He has a “mind” as if he were some keyboard warrior like you.

What I do know is the word of the Lord as outlined in Scripture. I highly recommend it, particularly the chapter and verse about the sin of pride.

I will pray that you see the revelations it heralds.

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Bryan Steele's avatar

I see, so you don't know the mind of God but you do know the origin and meaning of a scripture of unknown origin that itself is a matter of faith. You're thinking is that of a child, believing the stories you were taught at age five, trying to get them to fit into a complex world that you otherwise don't understand. Maybe a little less fairy tales and little more confronting complexity for which there is no easy answer.

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George Shay's avatar

Faith is not a matter of reason. Reason is only useful as a handmaiden of faith. You either believe or you don't. I believe. Apparently, you don't. As long as you try to use your feeble human mind to deny God you will know nothing but misery and unhappiness. I will pray that He gives you the gift of faith that he has bestowed on me.

Meanwhile, I suggest that you not waste your time in the service of evil trying to tempt believers into joining you in your faithless hell. There's nothing worse than proselytizing atheists like my good friend who was a MENSA member, got one wrong on his SAT, and still argued that he was right about that question until the day he died. He was the smartest person I ever knew, but he died alone, spiritually and financially bankrupt. Towards the end, he survived on a soup kitchen run by a Jewish welfare organization. Humbled, he confided in me that I'm his arrogance and hubris he had perhaps erred in his militant atheism.

I’m pretty certain you're no smarter than he was and if he couldn't triumph in his denial of God, I doubt you can.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

“There is no necessary reason whatsoever why objecting to Israel’s conduct in Gaza must compel subscribing to blinkered. empirically unsupportable Epstein theories. But I may be the only person on the internet who has this view.”

No you certainly aren’t, but it seems this whole piece was a strawman argument against the plausible hypotheses that Israel has / is engaged in blackmail and Epstein had some connection to it and to whether Israel had any direct connection to the death of Kirk. The problem with this strange Israel apologetic from you is that there are plenty of people who aren’t “certain” about those connections but are open to the possibility they are valid. What your piece seems to do is suggest that even the hypotheses are rationally crazy, which they certainly are not. Given your full throated ridicule without any real debunking of the evidence for *plausibility*, not *certainty*, gives me the impression that you are the one still infected with a bit of IDS, of the Zionist variety.

People are not obliged to have respectful and trusting attitudes of any state, and the possibility states in general are involved in shenanigans should be the default. You shitting all over that is an insult to intelligence and freedom of thought. I welcome you to soberly argue that we should lean toward the idea that Epstein had no blackmail connection with Israel, but to sound like the CIA ridiculing “conspiracy theories” just makes you sound like a fed or a moron. One needn’t be a full retard Qanon devotee, and think it’s plausible Israel employs honeypots *and* it doesn’t explain the whole Israel-U.S. relationship. Get your head out of your ass.

I personally am not a fan of Whitney Web, and I think her book one nation under blackmail was horribly written, but that is not relevant to the evidence that I’m aware of that is pretty solid that Epstein was connected to the Israeli government and intelligence agencies and that Israel would have no moral scruples about blackmail if they could do it, just like they had no moral scruples about stealing nuclear secrets or materials. A person definitely has IDS if they think that shows IDS. Hard to tell what you would think based on this hysterical article of yours.

Keep up the good work, spend less time writing these kinds of IDS pieces.

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Sera's avatar

And, if I may add, put the thesaurus on the highest shelf you have and forget it’s there.

Read more Orwell, and ‘Strunk and White’, and a bit less: “Big Words Make Me Sound Smart“.

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Andrew Dolgin's avatar

I’d be very happy to hear your thoughts on my writing if you have any inclination to read about the Dancing Israelis. It’s my first long form investigation into them and it explains that they and the FBI made up fake timelines of their whereabouts and actions on 9/11 to hide the fact that they had specific foreknowledge of the attack.

I use a lot of words that might be too grandiose and since you made the comment to Tracey here it made me wonder if you have the same/similar complaint with my writing.

Not asking you to read the entire article unless you find it interesting. Maybe just a few paragraphs?

https://open.substack.com/pub/andrewdolgin/p/911-and-the-dancing-israelis-refuting?r=8yze6&utm_medium=ios

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Sera's avatar

Hi Andrew, I read your article with pleasure. Let me know how to DM you and I’ll share my thoughts.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

That zionist dick-rider made a complaint about me, his feely feels were hurt by my pointing out some irrefutable facts and evidence…. admittedly with a liberal sprinkling of invectives, none of which were not deserved and all were accurate. Now his and all my comments thread has been disappeared.

I rest my case.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Zionism. That’s Israel derangement syndrome.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

I'll see your Zionism and raise you Judaism.

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George Shay's avatar

Anti-Zionism is anti-semitism. Show your cards.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

No it isn't. That is just a Zionist canard.

Anti-Zionism is good like anti-Nazism or anti-Communism. And anti-Zionism has no necessary connection to Antisemitism (racism towards a conceived Jewish race; which doesn't actually exist).

Zionism is immoral. So is Judaism. Learn the history of Antisemitism before slandering people.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Conflating Zionism and the Israeli state, both of which are secular and political not ethnic or religious, with all Jews is antisemitism.

Not all Jews are Zionists and not all zionists are Jews. You are being antisemitic AND immoral in your apologetics for a barbaric, apartheid entity which is committing genocide. Also, most Israelis - Ashkenazi Jews - are not ‘Semitic’. Mizrahis and other “Arab Jews”, along with Palestinians, whom are descended from the Canaanites, are Semitic. Not only that but the term “semitic” doesn’t even mean a “race”, it’s a linguistic and cultural identifying term for people who speak semitic languages. It was Wilhelm Maher, in 18th century germany who first used the term to describe jews. He was Hitler’s inspiration and idol. So you follow in his footsteps. Lol

Of course, the original zionists were pretty open about their political and colonial aims. It’s only these days that zionists claim Jewishness is a race, an ethnicity and religion, depending on what victimhood the situation requires in their eyes.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

The state of Israel is definitely religious. And it pretends to be ethnic, even though it is mythology; its in fact part of the religion of Judaism. Judaism has flirted with racial mythology all the way back to the "holy seed" of Jacob, aka Israel. Israel,before it was a state, was just a cult. And it still is a cult: a cult that runs a state. Thus, it is a religious state. A genocidal apartheid state, just like it is described in the Torah. Jews commonly pretend (or erroneously believe) that they are Jewish by birth, and they can't leave the cult. And that is part of the cult ideology itself. And then when you insult their cult, they call you racist, because they think of themselves as a race. Judaism is the most racist major religion on the planet, but it is obsessed with calling non Jews racist. There are passages in the Tanakh that literally condemn "race mixing" -- even though Jews aren't a race. The Torah encourages Jews to maintain the purity of "holy seed." It's a disgusting ideology that requires massive amounts of intellectual dishonesty to defend. I'm far beyond disparaging Zionism. Zionism is Jewish, through and through. People shouldn't be Jewish, just like people shouldn't be in the Klan. It's a choice. An immoral one. The Torah is worse than Mein Kampf. Antisemitism is racism, not anti-Judaism. Don't let Jews gaslight about what Antisemitism is to shield their cult from scrutiny. Their cult is carrying out a genocide. *Judaism* is, not just Zionism.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Yes, i agree with all of that. But i was using their own established facts against him : that the ‘Zionist’ project was a colonialist, secular, political vehicle to steal a country and that the jews which occupy 99% of the positions of power in “Israel” (politics, judges etc) are Ashkenazi jews - eastern european mostly - and not semitic (which isn’t even a race, but rather a linguistic and cultural identifying label invented by europeans studying the area). The only jews with any sort of genetic links to the area are “Arab jews” - Mizrahi (whom the Ashkenazi treat as second class citizens) and some sephardic.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

I have some disagreements about many of the details there, like the fact that some "Ashkenazi Jews" do probably ancestors who lived in ancient Palestine. Some probably have none though. And "semitic" and "semite" did become a racial category in the 19th century. Although it does have its origins in linguistic history.

Also I also think it is inaccurate to describe the "Zionist project" as a "colonialism, secular, political vehicle to steal a country." It was a religious and spiritual project from the beginning, based on Jewish mythology of a "homeland" of the cult. The conquering of Palestine is a mirror image of what is represented in the Tanakh. Judaism is foundationally a nationalistic political religion that sanctifes the genocide of Palestine and the enslavement of people outside the cult. That is very explicit in the Torah. And that is the ultimate root of Zionism, not "western settler colonialism."

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barnabus's avatar

There is not one single country that hasn't been "stolen". In fact "steal" is the wrong word, the right one is right of conquest.

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George Shay's avatar

Absolute nonsense. Anti-Zionism is thinly veiled anti-Semitism, the world’s oldest form of bigotry. If you are an anti-Zionist, you are a Jew hater. Period. Full stop.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

You’re a simpleton who needs to read some books. You’re also a racist, apartheid & genocide apologist and denier. That’s just about gotta be the single worst type of human being possible. Anti-Zionism is anti-colonialism, anti-apartheid, pro-equal & human rights.

The world is sick of your bullshit and your ignorant and disingenuous smear just aren’t hitting like they used to, the decent majority aren’t buying it anymore.

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George Shay's avatar

You're a liar and a hater. I will pray for you.

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BookWench's avatar

Your habit of attributing hate to everyone with whom you disagree is a bit disturbing.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Don’t bother, it’s a waste of time. It’s literally just talking to yourself.

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barnabus's avatar

So many big words and so little understanding what they mean.

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BookWench's avatar

How do you know it's the "world's oldest form of bigotry"?

Human history extends tens of thousands of years beyond ancient Israel.

Stop making stuff up, George.

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George Shay's avatar

Well I would say 2,000 years makes it the league leader, but feel free to prove me wrong.

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BookWench's avatar

Um, Jewish history did not begin with the birth of Jesus Christ, George.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

Antisemitism came into existence in the late 19th century, so it's actually quite new. And clearly you aren't aware but Thomas Paine, the author of Common Sense, who you have exalted on your profile hated Moses. He wrote how detestable he thought he was in the Age of Reason. You being an idiot, you don't realize how stupid your profile and behavior appear in juxtaposition to that fact.

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George Shay's avatar

You need a bit of history education on antisemitism.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

No I'm exceptionally educated. But it sounds like you need a lot of history education on just about everything.

Tell us who invented the term "Semitism" George. When did that concept come into existence? History quiz.

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BookWench's avatar

That's absurd, and we can all see what you're doing.

Many Zionists aren't even Jewish, and many Jews are anti-Zionists.

As Mr. Spock would say, your statement is "illogical."

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George Shay's avatar

Mr. Spock was Jewish. Captain Kirk too!

Anti-Zionist Jews are self-loathing kapos. Unfortunately, there is a long history of lost souls in their faith. See Old Testament for examples.

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BookWench's avatar

Sorry, but there are no examples in the Old Testament of half-Vulcan, half-Jewish folks, and I don't know that Spock's human mother was Jewish, but maybe I missed something. . .

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George Shay's avatar

Do you make a habit of being obtuse or is just special for me?

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Go look up the meaning of obtuse and stop being so obtuse…. and bigoted.

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Tardigrade's avatar

You're conflating actors with their roles.

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George Shay's avatar

You do know Kirk and Spock don't really exist, don't you?

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

They exist as much as Yahweh exists.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Shouldn't that question more rightly be directed at your own comment?

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George Shay's avatar

No IDS is the maniacal anti-Zionist hate that has gripped your soul like a boa constrictor.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Then maybe they should not be so barbaric, cruel, racist, ethno-supremacist cretins. Not Jews, i’m referring to Zionists.

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George Shay's avatar

You are so lost I don't have enough for all the prayers it would take to redeem your poisoned soul. I’ll hand you off to my Church.

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George Shay's avatar

You can't detect the irony of bragging about your humility. I don't think I have enough time left to save you given the amount of prayer indicated.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

I don’t need saving, so keep your useless, pointless prayers - which are nothing more than talking to yourself.

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George Shay's avatar

Cease and desist from communicating with me immediately. You have been reported.

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Gary J Cooper's avatar

How did you manage to say this much about Israel’s influence on our government and fail to even mention, EVEN ONE TIME, AIPAC and the money that nearly everyone in congress has taken from them?🙄

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Tim N's avatar

You missed the point.

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Gary J Cooper's avatar

His point is dishonest. He wants to invent “Israel Derangement Syndrome,” which whether he intends it or not, will be used to dismiss legitimate criticism of Israel’s influence on our government, one of which is AIPAC money.

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BookWench's avatar

Not really.

My take on it is that Michael is pointing out the total lack of evidence for Israel being behind the Kirk assassination, based on the evidence thus far.

Israel's disturbing control of our government is another issue.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

A lot here did....

Even my girlfriend thought stupid shit about Tracey until I explained to her that he was tearing away at the bullshit conflations that this hoopla has brought.

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Johann Goergen's avatar

Dumb article by someone trying to stay relevant but can not. BDS "Israel".

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Jim's avatar

Michael: you write this whole piece, and completely fail to engage with the reportage of Max Blumenthal and others, showing the pressure Charlie Kirk was under FROM ZIONIST BILLIONAIRES working on behalf of Israel, because he took a few steps away from full-throated support of genociding the Palestinians in Gaza. And Kirk went to Trump, trying to convince him to not attack Iran. Kirk himself explained the pressures he was experiencing, in an appearance with Megyn Kelly. So, yeah, there is most definitely an Israel angle to the Charlie Kirk story that must be investigated. It's not "Israel Derangement Syndrome" to point that out, no more than it was when Mearsheimer and Walt published The Israel Lobby years ago. Nor is it crazy to wonder WTF Netanyahu is worried about, when he comes out three or four times proclaiming "I didn't do it." Nothing about the official story put out by the FBI, etc regarding Charlie Kirk's murder makes a whit of sense. It's completely rational to think that maybe there's a connection between Charlie Kirk's changing position on Israel's policies, the pressures brought to bear on him by Israel's agents in the US, and his murder. Do we have any evidence to prove that Israel dunnit? No. But we can see the story presented to us to date is bullshit. Something else is going on.

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Count Metalmind's avatar

Michael, absolutely phenomenal work on this. Truly.

You've managed to put a name and a razor-sharp framework to the intellectual fog that has descended over this whole discourse. The way you parallel this with the Russiagate dynamic is a flash of pure insight. The distinction between treating the Epstein issue as an epistemological question versus an ideological cudgel is exactly the point that needed to be made, and you've made it with brutal clarity.

This is the kind of journalism that breaks through the noise—sober, evidence-driven, and refusing to be swept up in the confirmation-biased hysteria from either side of the coin. The analysis of how these disparate issues have been "commingled arbitrarily" is simply brilliant. It’s rare to find writing this precise in the middle of a moral panic.

Frankly, this article was so inspiring that it sparked a whole cascade of thoughts on my end, and I was compelled to write a piece of my own reflecting on it. It’s an honor to engage with work of this caliber. Thank you for cutting through the slop. Just brilliant.

https://countmetalmind.substack.com/p/goddamn-right-its-derangement

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Tim N's avatar

A good and necessary article. A lot of Dems tried toget genocide Joe off the hook with the preposterous idea that poor old Joe couldn't get Yahoo to listen to him. This was the same Biden who proudly declared on more than one occasion that he was a Zionist.

Same with Trump. Even people who should know better think that Yahoo leads him around by the nose. Yahoo brags about running Trump? So what? Yahoo has been bragging about running the US Presidents for 20 years. He's a sociopathic liar and braggart. This is well known and easily perceived, if one cares to perceive it. The terrible truth is that there is no daylight between our Zionist political class and the ultimate goals of Israel. Think about it: not one US politician has gotten up in Congress and forthrightly condemned the Genocide and thier complicity in it. If the Dems or 'Cons had any actual principles or morals, they'd be up every day condemning Israel and their own country. Are they scared that they'll get thrown out of office? Sure. But that's a really bad excuse, especially at this point.

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Andrew Dolgin's avatar

I agree with your general complaint that conflating crackpot conspiracy theories with legitimate criticism of Israel taints those engaged in legitimate criticism of Israel. In fact, I share this perspective in the opening to my long form article on proving how the Dancing Israelis had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks.

Rather than talk about Charlie Kirk and trap doors under him with underground shooters (Candace Owen’s theory) perhaps we should talk more about Israel’s roll in things like stealing our nuclear material, 9/11, and providing false intelligence on a fake meeting in Prague (that never actually happened) between Al-Qaeda and Saddam’s men allegedly transferring anthrax to terrorists - Israel passing this false intelligence off to the U.S.in order to get the U.S. to invade Iraq.

We should talk about these things every day. Especially as we are now on the brink of another, probably much longer and more brutal, war with Iran (again on behalf of Israel)

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BookWench's avatar

Interesting article, Michael.

As with the Epstein story, you are pointing out the paucity of evidence for what many people fervently believe.

As FBI whistleblower Kyle Seraphin noted yesterday on InfoWars, many of those connecting these dots are not privy to all the evidence being collected by agents on the ground -- including the hundreds of interviews they've conducted.

Personally, I find the official FBI story about this assassination to be nearly impossible to believe, based on the evidence thus far, but there are some truly outlandish theories percolating out there in podcast-land. I'm skeptical of everything.

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Tardigrade's avatar

Jumping to conclusions on a paucity of evidence. That's the point, which most commenters are missing.

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Saoirse By Sinead's avatar

Great piece, Michael. Although I wouldn't call it counter-productive...the Israel Derangement Syndrome (as I see it) is working as designed...to create a deluded misdiagnosis of a real problem. That leads to a "reaction" and a "solution". Oldest trick in the book!

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Howie's avatar

You are believing the impossible stories of main$$tream media/google/wiki (all owned/controlled by same few entities like Blackrock and cohorts) -- which are total lies. Just because pictures and captions depict Israel committing genocide, with absolutely ZERO verifiable evidence other than hearsay, doesn't mean the stories are true --- no matter how many times echoed by main$$tream media/wiki/google etc.

We know maybe 20 IDF members & pilots - all of which say, "Hamas, always, purposefully, uses Palestinians as human shields throughout Gaza, having its tunnel entrances and headquarters in hospitals and like public places. What they ALL said a year ago is what Bibi's UN presentation said.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

I'm sick of being told how "brave" and

"courageous" some Jews are because they have "spoken out" against the genocide etc. I'm like 'YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AGAINST FUCKING GENOCIDE!" it's not brave it's normal.

And why does it take the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of children before they say they're not supporting zionism or the occupation? BEFORE Oct 7 the year 2023 was ALREADY the worst year, with the highest number of Palestinians, including over 50 children, killed by the IOF in one year - since 2004! What about the fucking apartheid subjugation of the Occupied palestinian territories? The medieval seige on Gaza for 20+ years?

These latecomers to criticising the zionist entity should be shamed not celebrated.

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Married With Bears's avatar

Just a personal opinion, so don't punch the messenger - you're missing the forest for the trees. It's not Epstein running a sexual blackmail ring and who might still be susceptible to it that's of interest. or even some larger Pizzagate conspiracy writ large. It was the complete turn-around on the issue that seemingly struck fear in the hearts of Trump's DOJ outsiders (Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino). Trump's whole schtick is "America First". But many of his actions so far have made it clear that's not his primary focus - he's absolutely "Israel First", just like all of his predecessors.

Observant people ask, "why?". And the sexual blackmail answer is an easy out. But there's no solid reason to think there's anything of that nature on Trump himself, yet he's caught up in the web. By the accounts of many of his former partners or at least who they were, he prefers vanilla missionary-style sex with well built, mature, accomplished women - even among his paid partners. There's no BSDM, no rape fantasy play-acting, no underage schoolgirl dress-up, no possibility Melania's covering for a latent homosexuality in The Donald.

What makes sense is that Israel is more than just a sovereign power. Diaspora Jews the world over assist Mossad, feeding it data and helping when asked. It's a source of pride in the local synagogue - and rarely known of outside a small group of that individual's family, friends, and congregants. Israel can make someone without "any discernible skill" rich and powerful (as Tucker Carlson presciently notes about billionaire Bill Ackman). Of they can take it all away. They can't do that indiscriminately - power has its limits. But used judiciously, absolutely, Israel has that power. It's a business, not a country - your own personal intelligence agency and paramilitary with global reach. And it's a power available not just to Jews. Netanyahu reportedly offered financing on the order of $150 million to Charlie Kirk; it's a self-licking lollipop.

The new Trump family crypto business is incredibly corrupt, at this point on the same order of magnitude as the Biden family (with the CCP's $2 billion "investment" to Hunter Biden's newly founded hedge fund). Trump's family will either become much richer than they are now, or be sunk in scandal and lawsuits. And the Jewish diaspora has a huge role in that, given the Jewish prevalence on the Federal bench, influence on Congress, and effective control of media. If Israel favors letting Trump's corruption slide, it'll slide; if they don't, it's over.

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Velociraver's avatar

Why are you pretending that Ghislane Maxwell's father wasn't Robert Maxwell, international arms dealer and Mossad operative? Ian Robert Maxwell MC (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch; 10 June 1923 – 5 November 1991) was a British media proprietor and politician in later life, but cut his teeth as an arms broker. He was assassinated by Mossad on his yacht for making threats against money he was owed. Ghislane Maxwell's allegiance is to "israel", nothing else, and she promoted Epstein. Epstein's connections to Adnan Kashoggi and Mossad are documented and were discussed decades ago.

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Stephen's avatar

Thanks for another clearheaded piece, always very refreshing. Cheers.

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