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Gerda Ho's avatar

It is NOT antisemitism to call Israel a terrorist country,because that is exactly what it is!

As a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany whose many family members were murdered by the Nazis, I see Israel following in the same goose steps! Israel is happy to murder and stave to death all Gazans…they have no shame or compassion for any people ,be they women or children or other living things.They deliberately engage in these heinous crimes and boast about it.Just listen to the war criminals, Netanyahu, G’ Vir and Snotrich! All belong behind bars! Israel,has lost its right to exist.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

It doesn’t bother me a bit. If you excuse genocide and criminal leaders , that on you.

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George Shay's avatar

You are the worst kind of “Jew”. A real kapo. Are you on Qatar’s payroll?

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Mike's avatar

I call BS on your story.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

Zionism. That’s Israel derangement syndrome.

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George Shay's avatar

Anti-Zionism is anti-semitism. Show your cards.

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Gary J Cooper's avatar

How did you manage to say this much about Israel’s influence on our government and fail to even mention, EVEN ONE TIME, AIPAC and the money that nearly everyone in congress has taken from them?🙄

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Tim N's avatar

You missed the point.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

“There is no necessary reason whatsoever why objecting to Israel’s conduct in Gaza must compel subscribing to blinkered. empirically unsupportable Epstein theories. But I may be the only person on the internet who has this view.”

No you certainly aren’t, but it seems this whole piece was a strawman argument against the plausible hypotheses that Israel has / is engaged in blackmail and Epstein had some connection to it and to whether Israel had any direct connection to the death of Kirk. The problem with this strange Israel apologetic from you is that there are plenty of people who aren’t “certain” about those connections but are open to the possibility they are valid. What your piece seems to do is suggest that even the hypotheses are rationally crazy, which they certainly are not. Given your full throated ridicule without any real debunking of the evidence for *plausibility*, not *certainty*, gives me the impression that you are the one still infected with a bit of IDS, of the Zionist variety.

People are not obliged to have respectful and trusting attitudes of any state, and the possibility states in general are involved in shenanigans should be the default. You shitting all over that is an insult to intelligence and freedom of thought. I welcome you to soberly argue that we should lean toward the idea that Epstein had no blackmail connection with Israel, but to sound like the CIA ridiculing “conspiracy theories” just makes you sound like a fed or a moron. One needn’t be a full retard Qanon devotee, and think it’s plausible Israel employs honeypots *and* it doesn’t explain the whole Israel-U.S. relationship. Get your head out of your ass.

I personally am not a fan of Whitney Web, and I think her book one nation under blackmail was horribly written, but that is not relevant to the evidence that I’m aware of that is pretty solid that Epstein was connected to the Israeli government and intelligence agencies and that Israel would have no moral scruples about blackmail if they could do it, just like they had no moral scruples about stealing nuclear secrets or materials. A person definitely has IDS if they think that shows IDS. Hard to tell what you would think based on this hysterical article of yours.

Keep up the good work, spend less time writing these kinds of IDS pieces.

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Johann Goergen's avatar

Dumb article by someone trying to stay relevant but can not. BDS "Israel".

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Married With Bears's avatar

Just a personal opinion, so don't punch the messenger - you're missing the forest for the trees. It's not Epstein running a sexual blackmail ring and who might still be susceptible to it that's of interest. or even some larger Pizzagate conspiracy writ large. It was the complete turn-around on the issue that seemingly struck fear in the hearts of Trump's DOJ outsiders (Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino). Trump's whole schtick is "America First". But many of his actions so far have made it clear that's not his primary focus - he's absolutely "Israel First", just like all of his predecessors.

Observant people ask, "why?". And the sexual blackmail answer is an easy out. But there's no solid reason to think there's anything of that nature on Trump himself, yet he's caught up in the web. By the accounts of many of his former partners or at least who they were, he prefers vanilla missionary-style sex with well built, mature, accomplished women - even among his paid partners. There's no BSDM, no rape fantasy play-acting, no underage schoolgirl dress-up, no possibility Melania's covering for a latent homosexuality in The Donald.

What makes sense is that Israel is more than just a sovereign power. Diaspora Jews the world over assist Mossad, feeding it data and helping when asked. It's a source of pride in the local synagogue - and rarely known of outside a small group of that individual's family, friends, and congregants. Israel can make someone without "any discernible skill" rich and powerful (as Tucker Carlson presciently notes about billionaire Bill Ackman). Of they can take it all away. They can't do that indiscriminately - power has its limits. But used judiciously, absolutely, Israel has that power. It's a business, not a country - your own personal intelligence agency and paramilitary with global reach. And it's a power available not just to Jews. Netanyahu reportedly offered financing on the order of $150 million to Charlie Kirk; it's a self-licking lollipop.

The new Trump family crypto business is incredibly corrupt, at this point on the same order of magnitude as the Biden family (with the CCP's $2 billion "investment" to Hunter Biden's newly founded hedge fund). Trump's family will either become much richer than they are now, or be sunk in scandal and lawsuits. And the Jewish diaspora has a huge role in that, given the Jewish prevalence on the Federal bench, influence on Congress, and effective control of media. If Israel favors letting Trump's corruption slide, it'll slide; if they don't, it's over.

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abcdefgh's avatar

Ryan Dawson interview please

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Martin Grady's avatar

Wrong

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Count Metalmind's avatar

Michael, absolutely phenomenal work on this. Truly.

You've managed to put a name and a razor-sharp framework to the intellectual fog that has descended over this whole discourse. The way you parallel this with the Russiagate dynamic is a flash of pure insight. The distinction between treating the Epstein issue as an epistemological question versus an ideological cudgel is exactly the point that needed to be made, and you've made it with brutal clarity.

This is the kind of journalism that breaks through the noise—sober, evidence-driven, and refusing to be swept up in the confirmation-biased hysteria from either side of the coin. The analysis of how these disparate issues have been "commingled arbitrarily" is simply brilliant. It’s rare to find writing this precise in the middle of a moral panic.

Frankly, this article was so inspiring that it sparked a whole cascade of thoughts on my end, and I was compelled to write a piece of my own reflecting on it. It’s an honor to engage with work of this caliber. Thank you for cutting through the slop. Just brilliant.

https://countmetalmind.substack.com/p/goddamn-right-its-derangement

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Tim N's avatar

A good and necessary article. A lot of Dems tried toget genocide Joe off the hook with the preposterous idea that poor old Joe couldn't get Yahoo to listen to him. This was the same Biden who proudly declared on more than one occasion that he was a Zionist.

Same with Trump. Even people who should know better think that Yahoo leads him around by the nose. Yahoo brags about running Trump? So what? Yahoo has been bragging about running the US Presidents for 20 years. He's a sociopathic liar and braggart. This is well known and easily perceived, if one cares to perceive it. The terrible truth is that there is no daylight between our Zionist political class and the ultimate goals of Israel. Think about it: not one US politician has gotten up in Congress and forthrightly condemned the Genocide and thier complicity in it. If the Dems or 'Cons had any actual principles or morals, they'd be up every day condemning Israel and their own country. Are they scared that they'll get thrown out of office? Sure. But that's a really bad excuse, especially at this point.

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J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

I'm sick of being told how "brave" and

"courageous" some Jews are because they have "spoken out" against the genocide etc. I'm like 'YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AGAINST FUCKING GENOCIDE!" it's not brave it's normal.

And why does it take the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of children before they say they're not supporting zionism or the occupation? BEFORE Oct 7 the year 2023 was ALREADY the worst year, with the highest number of Palestinians, including over 50 children, killed by the IOF in one year - since 2004! What about the fucking apartheid subjugation of the Occupied palestinian territories? The medieval seige on Gaza for 20+ years?

These latecomers to criticising the zionist entity should be shamed not celebrated.

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Marcos's avatar

Agreed michael. My only concern is legitimate factual criticism of Zionist power will now be termed IDS. Did you coin that term or was it Mossad?

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MakerOfNoise's avatar

In my opinion, David Boies has a history of making ridiculous claims. In my opinion, he embodies the worst stereotypes of the legal profession. If you are an older geek, you may remember SCO vs IBM from 2013.

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Luke Lea's avatar

Well, at least you didn't use the word "genocide."

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Begonia's avatar

People are projecting evil everywhere. A mirror would do some good in general.

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JayBee's avatar

Thanks for the (deserved, imo) scathing rebuke of Webb’s contribution to journalism. She’s a loon…

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