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BookWench's avatar

This has to be one of the greatest scams ever: any female who had any connection with Epstein at all, can now claim victimhood, and score a nice payoff -- and the attorneys who file all the paperwork are laughing all the way to the bank.

Great article, Michael!

David's avatar

Kirsty Makuta should be charged with fraud. I doubt that'll happen given the current climate.

We are doing the Salem witch trials all over again. When Tracey urges caution, the finger is pointed at him.

José Cristóvão's avatar

Epstein is revealing more and more to be just Pizzagate. Which, by the end tale of the Covid pandemic, (part of) the mainstream media was warning us it was spreading to more and more parts of the population via conspirituality. Guess they never predicted it would engulf them.

The other day, I saw someone speaking of the Franklin scandal as something real they had never heard of. The Franklin scandal was the Pizzagate of its heyday, the Satanic ritual abuse panic.

@Dionne72's avatar

i’m not saying there’s not fraudsters.Most definitely, many fraudsters around the Epstein situation. But to call Jeffrey Epstein, a pizza gate situation is not OK with me.

José Cristóvão's avatar

There's a lot of sheer paranoia around Epstein. It's no longer about him (and/or his circle of friends and acquaintaces) having sexually abused women and girls.

@Dionne72's avatar

it is about that. Just because a narrative changes, doesn’t mean the truth is not the truth. Someone or even a lot of someone’s doesn’t change what truthfully happened. To claim pizzagate status is exactly the point of all the BS. That’s the goal. I refuse to let that POS off the hook, because ppl are sick and crazy. This is coming from someone (me) currently being harassed by grifters working the JE angle. I still see it all for what it is. It’s definitely not pizzagate

RickyMan's avatar

This whole Epstein hoax thing is continuing as the grifting podcasters have no morals and just monetize on this crap. The way the monetization of podcasting and you will see this idiocy disappear.

Pete Lincoln's avatar

The Victim Industrial Complex is a Racketeering and Blackmail enterprise on steroids. This is not to deny there are real victims or that Epstein was not guilty of sex with underage girls up to 2005. $750 million paid out so far not including the 25 or more secret settlements. I wonder if Trump is getting some of that action.

New Way's avatar

I wonder if Trump will have the balls to let someone from his cabinet be the one that reveals how much BS has been perpetrated by victims and their lawyers. Or if he's just going to let it continue to snowball. The truth always comes out , along with consequences for whoever knew about it and didn't say anything.

GasConspiratards's avatar

I thought the revised story from Christensen was that she was groomed by her biological family from a young age, not the cheerleader. Of course, it's difficult to figure things out with all the redactions.

Christensen said that "things that didn't make sense to [her]" all fell into place when learning this revised version of the story, implying that the original story didn't make sense to her (because it doesn't make sense. Why would her parents let her live with a cheerleading coach at age 15? What a coincidence that she happens to get involved with a cheerleading coach who trafficked her to Epstein, but who was running a camp for 8-12 year olds, and she was too old for it, but was allowed to join anyway...then the only girl living with the cheerleading coach, and the only girl trafficked to Epstein. This cheerleading coach was said by Christensen to have no background in cheerleading...but was running this program for 8-12 year olds, who are too young to fit Epstein's M.O...why? For a 15-year-old girl who has Down Syndrome and autism to coincidentally come by and willingly join).

The revised story makes even less sense. Originally, when she lived with the cheerleading coach, she had never done anything sexual before. Now she had been groomed from a young age...what was the purpose of sending her to live with the cheerleading coach? Wasn't all that grooming enough?

Then when she's sent to Epstein at age 16 he has to "teach" her how to do sexual acts she's been groomed to perform forever. What was even the point of the "grooming" then?

You don't need to groom 16 year olds from a young age to be sexually active at 16. What a joke. Most 16-year-old girls are already sexually active, and as the Palm Beach investigation established, there was no shortage of 16-year-old girls perfectly willing to give Epstein massages and other things for money.

The revised story also says that her 12-year-old sister was also approved for Epstein/Maxwell. Who has accused Epstein of doing anything to them when they were under 13?

Something interesting to note, although this isn't necessarily a smoking gun: Among the men she implies were involved with Epstein are Dan Snyder and Joe Gibbs. But Joe Gibbs was not the coach of the Washington Redskins (feels good to type that) during the time she alleged to have been trafficked by Epstein. He returned as coach in 2004. Note that she's from Virginia, hence the Washington Redskins are her local football team. This is likely why she thought to name all these people tied to the Redskins. She just mixed up the time period for certain details.

Of course, it's not impossible for Joe Gibbs to associate with the franchise before he returns as coach, but I think the most likely scenario is she was just trying to think of what celebrities she's familiar with she could tie into it.

David's avatar

According to one filing, the allegations against her family came later.

“The third introduced the allegation that Doe’s own biological mother facilitated Doe’s trafficking—a claim absent from all prior accounts, but that coincidentally appeared only after Doe’s family gave the lie to Doe’s allegations”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.602764/gov.uscourts.nysd.602764.422.0.pdf

Doe’s initial Complaint in this case.”

Sam's avatar

I really like your username 😂

Richard Keppler's avatar

Mr Tracey do you have any comment on the Pulitzer Committee awarding Julie K Brown a special citation for her Epstein reporting and do you have any message for the Committee?

Michael Tracey's avatar

They had to invent a phony new retroactive "award" to give to her! Absurd, of course. I have plenty more I could "comment," but I'll probably save it for something.

Alfalfa's avatar

I'm sure you will

Val Crosby's avatar

thank you for your work. to the last point, skeptics/rationalists must go on the attack.

Katarzyna Gertych's avatar

Wow. Just wow. This is incredible.

Kristy Makuta is probably very much mentally ill and has been for years - I think the majority of responsibility for what happened in this case is on the greedy lawyers from Wigdor and her "adoptive mother".

Additinally, I still cannot comprehend how Karyna Shuliak who was Epstein's fiancee and life partner of about 10 years at the time of his death will probably receive literally zero from his inheritance despite he put her in his will as the biggest beneficiary while these "survivors'' are becoming millionaires. She could not receive ANYTHING yet because his estate is still under litigation. When the time comes there will probably be nothing left. Not to even mention how her life must look like from the summer of 2025 - if she has made any effort to move on with her life within those few years after his death it has all probably collapsed since the files were released and all her life from that period was made publicly available to read for everyone everywhere and compare with what "survivors'' had to "endure".

David's avatar

Karyna is more admirable than you realise. She could've walked into Brad Edwards office, declared herself a trafficking victim, and received millions from bank funds. I'm not kidding, if Svetlana Pozhidaeva did, so could she.

Yet Karyna refused to smear her former lover.

Katarzyna Gertych's avatar

Lover? He was more than that. She was in his will and it had a handwritten note that diamond ring was already provided to her. She is a widow in fact (not by law but by custom). Whatever people say about her she is just a person with integrity.

New Way's avatar

I don't hink people with a profit motive are deceiving out of mental illness. When personal gain is the objective made possible by dishonest scheming and calculation with disregard for those falsely implicated, you are dealing with a criminal mind.

Katarzyna Gertych's avatar

You make a point but the accusations here were so crazy, so unbelievable and so different from other accounts that a mental facto must have played a role, not just greed and cynicism.

New Way's avatar

I guess it would need to be determined, hypothetically, if she attempted to avoid consequences, aka lying to investigators or otherwise trying to escape accountability. Because that would show that she knew what she was doing was wrong. If she maintains her absurd story all the way and is genuinely confused as to why she is facing trouble, then that would be an indication that she actually believed what she was saying, which would indicate insanity. There's the argument that anyone who commits a crime is insane to some degree because a perfectly sane person would have perfect behavior.... But that's not realistic and doesn't fly in the justice system. You also have to take into consideration the optics based on the public perception. If society is convinced this person acted in bad faith and deserves consequences, than there's a useful deterrent effect in them seeing punishment being handed down. And a potential increase in similar fraud if punishment is avoided or seen as lenient.

Katarzyna Gertych's avatar

She has to return $ 2.5mio to JP Morgan Victims Fund from what I understand. But something tells me she doesnt have it anymore. Or at least not all of this.

New Way's avatar

From what I've seen/heard, non-essential assets of value get seized and then a payment plan usually gets setup but it must allow for the person to cover their living expenses as determined by the probation/parole officer. Any additional income must be reported so it can be garnished accordingly. Often, low-income individuals end up paying $25-$100 per month for the rest of their life and never pay off their debt entirely. If it's determined that someone had the means to pay more but did not do so, they can end up in jail or have fines added to the total.

Sam's avatar

What happened in the call you had with KM that you mentioned in part 1? How did that come about? Will that be in part 3? How many more parts are there to this series and how long do we have to wait until the next one? Also, separately, did you wipe the floor with Bret Weinstein in the 'abolish podcasts' debate?

Isaac's avatar

Abt 3 weeks ago he went on this tear w/ her and debated. Something happened and neither have spoken of it since.

Sam's avatar

Ohhh that bluesky lady, I remember.

Kathryn Hennessy's avatar

I don’t know how to react to all this Michael except there seems to be no boundaries to what people will do out of pure greed. Thank you. Kathryn from Brooklyn.

SCA's avatar

It's like they're all gothic horror novelists manqués hoping to be picked up by an agent.

Perhaps the ghost of Governor Phips can be summoned to put an end to this idiocy.

Tim N's avatar

You've done God's work here, Michael, and though God msy forget, I will not.

Stephen Porter's avatar

I don't think this stuff occurs because people are idiots. I just think it occurs due to fear of recourse. For instance, David Irving poked holes in a lot of the Holocaust narratives. But, heaven forbid people at the higher echelons mention that. And this is coming from an adamant Israel supporter by the way.

New Way's avatar

There's nothing hard to believe or without adequate explanation/documentation regarding the Holocaust. It wasn't even contested by the people that were involved. Thus, any effort to do so now is likely driven by anti-semetic motivations which bizarrely captivate certain people that fail to recognize and control long-expired exclusionist and superiority instincts.

RickyMan's avatar

David Irving is a Hitler apologist kook. I say this as someone who is not Jewish

Deplorable Dave's avatar

The worst part of all this - the women creating and trafficking in these sadistic fantasies should be hanged in public, but won't be.