Let me give you some advice. Your class your show has evolved into back in my day would’ve been a fifth grade or sixth grade maybe seventh grade English class where you learn how to diagram sentences. You take a tweet an innocuous offhand bullshit statement from President Trump or anybody and start to critique it like your self-righteous literary agents or academics, correcting and laughing about his poor writing style poor language use. You stop dealing with events and started dealing with how my mind is so great I can teach you why this is bad or why this is good regard, depending on your subject. Individuals once respected for being the antidote to the mainstream media template and playbook. You are now instituted that same playbook and method to your own reporting. I don’t think it’s effective and I am about to cancel my racket news subscription sitting there falling about how bad your student paper was is neither informative or truly academic revamp revamp now.
This is wanting to know the facts you don’t give a shit about your English teachers impression of the language used in a tweet or you can use your intellectual Ouija board to decide what or define what was said or meant by some words about Donald Trump bullshit give us the facts who did what win that’s what used to happen. You talked about evidence, disclosures, fax, timelines, cooperating, evidence if you don’t go back to that you can lose all your fucking audience.
That’s what it sounds like. It sounds like two Ivey leaders or two English majors standing around sniggering at the poor grammar used in a tweet suggesting different vocabulary words and snickering because you would’ve written it differently. That’s not discourse about facts and policy. It’s more like the Sybil, the soothsayer, thinking she knows what’s going on by reading the tarot cards bullshit
You love trump, retard. That’s your problem. Matt has been critical of every president and other powerful figureheads e.g. bank executives, world trade bureaucrats, etc. for decades now. Are you just upset you don’t have the paranoid delusional ravings of a 70 year old recluse in the form of Walter Kirn to listen to anymore?
Listen, you giant douche, I don’t have any qualities with somebody discussing the pros and cons of policy. That’s fair game but sit in there sniggering at Senate structures and comparing one statement from today to a statement 20 years ago accomplished nothing they sound like two mean girls making fun of the geeks with the good grades. Juvenile. Theirs is. the geeks with the good grades. Juvenile. There’s no legitimate discussion of the consequences of certain policies and others that’s what I wanna hear talked about not about what what they think on how he talks or how he writes the stupid joke pictures he posts that’s in I’m Wanna watch two journalist snigger about he’s not wearing the coolest new Nikes Jesus Christ you’re too stupid by half
Like I said, stay on Facebook, dumbass grandpa. Admit you just liked Taibbi when he was criticizing the left for giving trump an unfair shake in their ends-justify-the-means attempts to stop him by lying about Russia or whatever. Which is fair, they were outright lying. But Trump is a clown through and through. A reality TV persona. That’s why there is room to make fun of him. Policy-wise he’s the same as any administration; where much of the progress in our country is plotted out by the banks and technology and war profiteers. So that point of yours tastes like alligator tears. Everyone should be pointing and laughing at trump alongside criticizing him for being a complete moron but YOU LIKE HIM, so that’s why you’re upset. That’s your problem. Go back to Facebook. Taibbi has been critical of every president. Maybe know that before dropping unsolicited advice no one cares about in a comment section
You can’t name a single combat action in my lifetime that was started by Israel. Not a single one every military action for the past 80 years that has been engaged in by Israeli government and the IDF has been in direct response to some military threat terrorist activity, and the killing of Israeli citizens by enemy Muslim states prove me wrong asshole
Well Jack, what the fuck are you talking about. What policy position are you discussing and why do you support it or oppose it the start from scratch. Don’t blame me that I can’t follow your ramblings from your fire hose of misinformation, outright, faults, hoods, and conspiracy think nonsense.
You moron I agree 100% every president should be criticized. I realized that my comment got mostly likes in agreement. You’re the only one who complains. I don’t object to criticizing any present for their policy diagramming every sentence they speak using rosé‘s thesaurus to laugh about the words being used as to simple or they have some secret meaning that’s all bullshit. I don’t wanna hear discussions like that. I want to hear this is an event that’s occurring is what’s being said about it. Accurate or inaccurate. How it’s being said is immaterial. The people who always intent on diagramming the sentences in finding the hidden meaning in chuckling because it non-presidential or all this other bullshit is because you don’t have any facts or common sense that can challenge the man’s real policies and real success at bringing about prosperity to the United States. You can’t name a goddamn thing that Joe Biden‘s administration did that was positive. He fucked up everything he touched much like a Barack Obama. This catch drum beat of Nana Nana. Trump is evil. Trump is dumb. Trump is corrupt and his language proves it. Bunch of fucking grade schoolers who’s eye rolls and Snickers are supposed to imply deeper meaning and understanding of the unsaid that’s all crap. I don’t care if he’s got a beef with the pope. I don’t care. I have a beef with the pope getting into politics. He needs to be ready to take the heat. You say he’s disrespectful to the pope because he had a Catholic Church? Big fucking deal when the Catholic Church tries to get involved in geopolitics then they have to play by those rules. And that fact doesn’t change anything about the success and righteousness of the policy positions that have been promoted and followed through with by this administration
Just one word of advice for Matt Taibbi and Michael Tracey: John Mearsheimer, John Mearsheimer, John Mearsheimer (and Stephen Walt). Read "The Israel Lobby" book, or just the original article in The London Review of Books. Stop wasting time with your strawman arguments, trying to tarnish legitimate criticisms of Israeli influence over American foreign policy by associating them with fringe theories about the JFK assassination or Jeffrey Epstein.
Arguments being advanced by Tucker Carlson aren't just "strawman arguments" that can be presumptively ignored. They are hugely influential, and dominate the current media landscape. That said, it's funny you're recommending the Mearsheimer/Walt book as if you're informing me about its existence for the first time. I read that London Review of Books article when it first came out in, like, 2007. When did you first read it?
About the same time you did, Michael, and it's arguments are still far more important than anything else Tucker Carlson (who has interviewed Mearsheimer) or Joe Kent might speculate on regarding assassination conspiracy theories or possible connections with Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't think Michael is in any way trying to tarnish legitimate criticism of Israel.
He may be tarnishing illegitimate critiques of Israeli influence, but that is a good thing.
To take another recent example, the press in 2016 had many opportunities to make legitimate critiques of Trump. But instead, they chose to write novels about Russian collusion and pee tapes/blackmail, among many other unreal or out of context topics.
That ultimately backfired when he won a second term.
Lesson: If you believe the Israel lobby (or Cuba lobby or whatever) has too much influence on our foreign policy, you should not want crazy false claims to be brought against that lobby. Because ultimately, legitimate critiques will get thrown in with illegitimate critiques in the realm of public opinion.
John Mearsheimer has been audience-captured by conspiratards. Folks that like to cite him are already predisposed to the idea that there is a "they" out there, who is rigging the system, trying to rule over us all. Mearsheimer just panders to these tards saying "they" refers to the Israeli lobby and the tards feel they been vindicated that their "religion" is totally not a cult. And that appreciation gets feedback-looped back into Mearsheimer who concocts more theories in that vein trying to appease that fanbase.
That Melania speech is bizarre, but do you think it’s possible that the Trump camp is trying to rev Epstein mania back up, now that it’s cooled a bit? It deranges all of their enemies on both the right and left, and distracts from other news events (Iran anyone?). “Flood the zone with shit,” right?
I disagree with Michael Tracey on that Oliver Stone JFK "disservice" comment. It's 1991 and that movie had to get out, or Americans 15 years later when all that post-9/11 material - Michael Moore, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden the American people had to be psychologically prepared for. The essential points of JFK is are essentially correct. The other great political movie of 1991 which had to copyrighted in the UK had less visibility but is also really important - The Distinguished Gentleman(1991) starring Eddie Murphy.
Both movies have real points. Obviously, JFK is the far more important film. If there is a correction one could make regarding JFK it is that Oswald is probably more the fall guy than the patsy - I agree with Joe Rogan on this point.
Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone Israelis communist gunman who just so happened to be a US Marine, and had a Soviet wife. And on the day of JFK assassination just so happened to go to the movies and saw The Manchurian Candidate in re-runs(1962) and that's where the Dallas police arrested him. And that's why The Manchurian Candidate was kept in the CIA hands until 1988 when it was re-released to great movie reviews.
"Pope Leo is WEAK on crime." - from the 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, in a "Truth Social" online post. Yes, Matt Taibbi that is a hilarious statement.
Used to love this show! But your love for Israel is blatant! Noticed you shielded the Zionist regime every chance you got. Hope it draws in many subscribers for you. I for one cannot listen to this inaccuracy any more!
"Everyone should buy my memoir, 'Melania', to show solidarity with the real victim of this witch hunt: ME-lania!"
Let me give you some advice. Your class your show has evolved into back in my day would’ve been a fifth grade or sixth grade maybe seventh grade English class where you learn how to diagram sentences. You take a tweet an innocuous offhand bullshit statement from President Trump or anybody and start to critique it like your self-righteous literary agents or academics, correcting and laughing about his poor writing style poor language use. You stop dealing with events and started dealing with how my mind is so great I can teach you why this is bad or why this is good regard, depending on your subject. Individuals once respected for being the antidote to the mainstream media template and playbook. You are now instituted that same playbook and method to your own reporting. I don’t think it’s effective and I am about to cancel my racket news subscription sitting there falling about how bad your student paper was is neither informative or truly academic revamp revamp now.
Translation: "Blah blah blah blah blah"
I’m trying to push myself to watch it all the way through, but the podcast sounds like an episode of an ancient aliens
This is wanting to know the facts you don’t give a shit about your English teachers impression of the language used in a tweet or you can use your intellectual Ouija board to decide what or define what was said or meant by some words about Donald Trump bullshit give us the facts who did what win that’s what used to happen. You talked about evidence, disclosures, fax, timelines, cooperating, evidence if you don’t go back to that you can lose all your fucking audience.
That’s what it sounds like. It sounds like two Ivey leaders or two English majors standing around sniggering at the poor grammar used in a tweet suggesting different vocabulary words and snickering because you would’ve written it differently. That’s not discourse about facts and policy. It’s more like the Sybil, the soothsayer, thinking she knows what’s going on by reading the tarot cards bullshit
bro is yapping
https://x.com/elijahliststeve/status/2042379943254905230?s=46&t=sXz1sBVBFAmlM-rwyRFAlw
You’re credibility is toast at least for your side because of things like this
You love trump, retard. That’s your problem. Matt has been critical of every president and other powerful figureheads e.g. bank executives, world trade bureaucrats, etc. for decades now. Are you just upset you don’t have the paranoid delusional ravings of a 70 year old recluse in the form of Walter Kirn to listen to anymore?
Listen, you giant douche, I don’t have any qualities with somebody discussing the pros and cons of policy. That’s fair game but sit in there sniggering at Senate structures and comparing one statement from today to a statement 20 years ago accomplished nothing they sound like two mean girls making fun of the geeks with the good grades. Juvenile. Theirs is. the geeks with the good grades. Juvenile. There’s no legitimate discussion of the consequences of certain policies and others that’s what I wanna hear talked about not about what what they think on how he talks or how he writes the stupid joke pictures he posts that’s in I’m Wanna watch two journalist snigger about he’s not wearing the coolest new Nikes Jesus Christ you’re too stupid by half
Like I said, stay on Facebook, dumbass grandpa. Admit you just liked Taibbi when he was criticizing the left for giving trump an unfair shake in their ends-justify-the-means attempts to stop him by lying about Russia or whatever. Which is fair, they were outright lying. But Trump is a clown through and through. A reality TV persona. That’s why there is room to make fun of him. Policy-wise he’s the same as any administration; where much of the progress in our country is plotted out by the banks and technology and war profiteers. So that point of yours tastes like alligator tears. Everyone should be pointing and laughing at trump alongside criticizing him for being a complete moron but YOU LIKE HIM, so that’s why you’re upset. That’s your problem. Go back to Facebook. Taibbi has been critical of every president. Maybe know that before dropping unsolicited advice no one cares about in a comment section
You can’t name a single combat action in my lifetime that was started by Israel. Not a single one every military action for the past 80 years that has been engaged in by Israeli government and the IDF has been in direct response to some military threat terrorist activity, and the killing of Israeli citizens by enemy Muslim states prove me wrong asshole
This isn’t Facebook. No one is talking about Israel. Take your medication grandpa, you’re lost on the internet again.
Well Jack, what the fuck are you talking about. What policy position are you discussing and why do you support it or oppose it the start from scratch. Don’t blame me that I can’t follow your ramblings from your fire hose of misinformation, outright, faults, hoods, and conspiracy think nonsense.
You moron I agree 100% every president should be criticized. I realized that my comment got mostly likes in agreement. You’re the only one who complains. I don’t object to criticizing any present for their policy diagramming every sentence they speak using rosé‘s thesaurus to laugh about the words being used as to simple or they have some secret meaning that’s all bullshit. I don’t wanna hear discussions like that. I want to hear this is an event that’s occurring is what’s being said about it. Accurate or inaccurate. How it’s being said is immaterial. The people who always intent on diagramming the sentences in finding the hidden meaning in chuckling because it non-presidential or all this other bullshit is because you don’t have any facts or common sense that can challenge the man’s real policies and real success at bringing about prosperity to the United States. You can’t name a goddamn thing that Joe Biden‘s administration did that was positive. He fucked up everything he touched much like a Barack Obama. This catch drum beat of Nana Nana. Trump is evil. Trump is dumb. Trump is corrupt and his language proves it. Bunch of fucking grade schoolers who’s eye rolls and Snickers are supposed to imply deeper meaning and understanding of the unsaid that’s all crap. I don’t care if he’s got a beef with the pope. I don’t care. I have a beef with the pope getting into politics. He needs to be ready to take the heat. You say he’s disrespectful to the pope because he had a Catholic Church? Big fucking deal when the Catholic Church tries to get involved in geopolitics then they have to play by those rules. And that fact doesn’t change anything about the success and righteousness of the policy positions that have been promoted and followed through with by this administration
Nobody listens to 2 hour pods for straight news reporting in the style of walter cronkite. GO BACK TO FACEBOOK AND STAY THERE.
Are you confused? This isn’t Facebook. Joe Biden isn’t president btw. Lmao you’re all the same. Your brain is broken. Mush.
I can’t express how good this makes me feel
Just one word of advice for Matt Taibbi and Michael Tracey: John Mearsheimer, John Mearsheimer, John Mearsheimer (and Stephen Walt). Read "The Israel Lobby" book, or just the original article in The London Review of Books. Stop wasting time with your strawman arguments, trying to tarnish legitimate criticisms of Israeli influence over American foreign policy by associating them with fringe theories about the JFK assassination or Jeffrey Epstein.
Arguments being advanced by Tucker Carlson aren't just "strawman arguments" that can be presumptively ignored. They are hugely influential, and dominate the current media landscape. That said, it's funny you're recommending the Mearsheimer/Walt book as if you're informing me about its existence for the first time. I read that London Review of Books article when it first came out in, like, 2007. When did you first read it?
About the same time you did, Michael, and it's arguments are still far more important than anything else Tucker Carlson (who has interviewed Mearsheimer) or Joe Kent might speculate on regarding assassination conspiracy theories or possible connections with Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't think Michael is in any way trying to tarnish legitimate criticism of Israel.
He may be tarnishing illegitimate critiques of Israeli influence, but that is a good thing.
To take another recent example, the press in 2016 had many opportunities to make legitimate critiques of Trump. But instead, they chose to write novels about Russian collusion and pee tapes/blackmail, among many other unreal or out of context topics.
That ultimately backfired when he won a second term.
Lesson: If you believe the Israel lobby (or Cuba lobby or whatever) has too much influence on our foreign policy, you should not want crazy false claims to be brought against that lobby. Because ultimately, legitimate critiques will get thrown in with illegitimate critiques in the realm of public opinion.
John Mearsheimer has been audience-captured by conspiratards. Folks that like to cite him are already predisposed to the idea that there is a "they" out there, who is rigging the system, trying to rule over us all. Mearsheimer just panders to these tards saying "they" refers to the Israeli lobby and the tards feel they been vindicated that their "religion" is totally not a cult. And that appreciation gets feedback-looped back into Mearsheimer who concocts more theories in that vein trying to appease that fanbase.
What was in the 2007 Israel Lobby book that was false?
Two morons
That Melania speech is bizarre, but do you think it’s possible that the Trump camp is trying to rev Epstein mania back up, now that it’s cooled a bit? It deranges all of their enemies on both the right and left, and distracts from other news events (Iran anyone?). “Flood the zone with shit,” right?
Thanks both for another engaging podcast.
I disagree with Michael Tracey on that Oliver Stone JFK "disservice" comment. It's 1991 and that movie had to get out, or Americans 15 years later when all that post-9/11 material - Michael Moore, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden the American people had to be psychologically prepared for. The essential points of JFK is are essentially correct. The other great political movie of 1991 which had to copyrighted in the UK had less visibility but is also really important - The Distinguished Gentleman(1991) starring Eddie Murphy.
Both movies have real points. Obviously, JFK is the far more important film. If there is a correction one could make regarding JFK it is that Oswald is probably more the fall guy than the patsy - I agree with Joe Rogan on this point.
Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone Israelis communist gunman who just so happened to be a US Marine, and had a Soviet wife. And on the day of JFK assassination just so happened to go to the movies and saw The Manchurian Candidate in re-runs(1962) and that's where the Dallas police arrested him. And that's why The Manchurian Candidate was kept in the CIA hands until 1988 when it was re-released to great movie reviews.
"Pope Leo is WEAK on crime." - from the 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, in a "Truth Social" online post. Yes, Matt Taibbi that is a hilarious statement.
Used to love this show! But your love for Israel is blatant! Noticed you shielded the Zionist regime every chance you got. Hope it draws in many subscribers for you. I for one cannot listen to this inaccuracy any more!
id rather Iran be nuclear than the mental USA
Bullshit. Another piece of shit republican. Spending our tax dollars on a war. Nobody wanted.
Thank you for the laugh about the pope reference. Hysterical! I needed that today. You are hitting a real grove together. Keep at it.
Deja vu, all over again
Groundhog Day redux