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Mark Nockleby's avatar

This is where I'm at: "the ideal approach would be to refrain from launching any crazy wars to begin with."

N Martin's avatar

Anyone who believed that Trump was antiwar should self-deport to El Salvador.

Rose's avatar

CECOT do not pass go, don't collect cash

Sam's avatar
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RFK Jr. is one of those rare conspiratards that is pro-Israel which is more befuddling. If you believe COVID-19 could have been "ethnically targeted" to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people, and "they" are poisoning the food supply, and "they" killed his father and uncle and "they" did 911, and "they" created vaccines to give autism to the masses, how does one have all those convictions and then turn out to be pro-israel 😂 What kind of grift is this? Who is "they" to RFK?

M Rothschild's avatar

Trump's ground invasion is destined to become a self-licking ice cream cone: destined to fail and destined to require more and more troops. Rinse and repeat until all of West Asia is afire in a Sunni-Shia war that removes both Iranian and Arab energy from a world energy ecosystem increasingly dominated by the USA.

If there are more US-Israeli strikes on Iran's critical civilian infrastructure then this scenario will be inevitable. Afterward Trump will tell you to forget about the Strait of Hormuz because there won't be anything to move through it.

Rose's avatar

***partisanism is shaped by demographics. It's an identity thing. Hard demographics absent here.

GM's avatar

Running cover for the genocidal state of Israel and their influence on our politics as usual Michael.

Christopher Rixman's avatar

“MAGA was anti-war” until it wasn’t.

Just like every other movement that thinks power won’t change it.

kapock's avatar

Today, it so happens, is the 27th anniversary of the beginning of the “defensive” NATO alliance’s attack on Yugoslavia/Serbia.

Peter Smith's avatar

Yes. Still am. Unless it’s necessary. Ask BJClinton if it was necessary to take out bin Laden instead of chasing skirts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/16/bill-clinton-and-the-missed-opportunities-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

To review:

5 basic principles of MAGA:

America first

Secure borders

End / don’t start pointless wars

Economy/make things here

Free speech

Rose's avatar

Thanks. The first couple of paragraphs covering voters demographics is interesting; not entirely surprised. Yeah we're pro war when we think it's ideologically aligned. Scary thought.

Given what you've written & stated recently about Trumpian personality cult & blind adherents Tucker et al, maybe sunk cost fallacy explains AND lack of critical thinking, solid ethical framework for political engagement etc.

Gilgamech's avatar

MAGA was always anti-war. Trump has been paid not to be.

Sam's avatar

It gets infinitely easier in life if you just admit you got duped (again?) by a shrewd politician and some dopey podcasters.

Rose's avatar

800 words is outrageous 😳 haha that's MT bio